Jake Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 I see a lot of people's lineups say crede, but usually you want someone that's a leadoff type hitter in the 9 spot. Wouldn't uribe fit this mold much better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 Who Batting 7th? this should determine who bats 9th.. IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsonmi Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Feb 10, 2005 -> 03:12 PM) Who Batting 7th? this should determine who bats 9th.. IMO AJ will be batting 7th. And, 9th will likely be Uribe with the acquisition of Iggy. If Iggy struggles I expect Ozzie to flip them and bat Iggy in the #9 spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 I see a lot of people's lineups say crede, but usually you want someone that's a leadoff type hitter in the 9 spot. Wouldn't uribe fit this mold much better? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No. I don't know where you got that idea. You always put your worst hitter at 9th so he has the fewest ab's. On this team that's Crede. AJ's has a much better avg but both are low 700 OPS players. Iggy is expected to be at least a high 700 OPS player with a higher OBP than both of them so he should get the 7th spot. Uribe in comparison is expected to at least be an 800 OPS player so he gets the 6th spot. That's why every NL team has the pitcher hit 9th. I think usually in the AL the worst hitter actually has good speed (Harris) so that might be where you got the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 I wouldn't bat Crede ninth. I think Iggy would be best for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsonmi Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 There are studies out there which show that the #9 hitter leads off innings the second most often (behind #1). I believe it is for this reason that many American League teams view the #9 spot as a second leadoff spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 I agree. Iggy needs to be the 9th hitter until he proves he can handle the top of the order. I'd be after we would start him with too much pressure and he would just crack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 I agree. Iggy needs to be the 9th hitter until he proves he can handle the top of the order. I'd be after we would start him with too much pressure and he would just crack. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I believe he hit in the middle of the lineup in Japan. 3rd or 4th. Putting him at 7th behind Uribe & in front of AJP is not putting pressure on him. As for the 9th study let's take a look at AL teams: Bal Matos .275O .333S .224A (worse than Crede) Bos Mueller .365O .446S .283A (weakest OPS) NYY Womack .349O .385S .307A (weakest OPS) Tam Hall .300O .366S .255A (worst OBP) Sox Crede .299O .418S .239A (worst OBP, BA) Cle Peralta .321O .280S .240A (worse than Crede) Det Infante .317O .449S .264A (better than Crede but still poor OBP) Kan Gotay .315O .375S .270A (poorest OBP) Min Rivas .283O .432S .256A (and you thought Crede's OBP was bad?) Ana Molina .313O .404S .276A (poorest OBP) Oak Byrnes .347O .467S .283A (weakest OPS) Sea Reese .271O .303S .221A (they needed a SS) Tex Barajas .276O .453S .249A (poorest OBP) Basically it's the weakest OPS guy or weakest OBP guy. Crede is deserving of 9th. It could actually help him. 02-04: 9th 74AB .270A .349O .446S .795OPS 02-04: Lead: 269AB .264A .288O .480S .768OPS If what you say is true about the 9th hitter leading off more innings than 2-8 then this move should help Crede go from a low 700 OPS to a high 700 one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 The ninth spot is for you worst hitter.... OBP Crede -- .304 Uribe -- .307 Are the only two candidates flirting with a clayton-like OBP That being said, if all you are worrying about is "who should bat 9th" then you are in pretty damn good shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 (edited) http://www.asian-athlete.com/DaScoopsFormD...ay.aspx?ID=2472 This is a real good article on Iguchi's accomplishments in the JPL. He actually hit 7th in the Japan Series in 00, 01. As his OBP grew so did his place in the lineup to where he was the leadoff hitter for the Hawks in 04. http://www.bloglines.com/blog/TheCheat?subid=2931256 This is a quick analysis of what to expect from Iggy. 280A/370O/450S - 820 OPS - perfect for 7th. Edited February 11, 2005 by JUGGERNAUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 QUOTE(thomsonmi @ Feb 10, 2005 -> 05:27 PM) There are studies out there which show that the #9 hitter leads off innings the second most often (behind #1). I believe it is for this reason that many American League teams view the #9 spot as a second leadoff spot. There is a reason why #9 gets so many lead off opportunities. Most AL teams put their worst hitter at number 8 so they can use the #9 guy as the second leadoff hitter. It's kind of a cause and effect thing. As for the comment made about the worst hitter batting 9th, that is true in both leagues ... National and Little ... and in the NL it is partially to keep the current pitcher in the game as long as possible. Notice, I said partially. Double switches are used to accomplish the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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