Dems:Make Election day a Holiday

[Rex Kickass]

Hey, equality doesn't matter I guess. Especially if you're a good old boy... because when you get convicted of a felony (Oliver North) or are even about to be tried for one (Richard Nixon) you just get pardoned and kept from losing your right to vote. Despite committing a crime.

 

Democrats care about all Americans. Republicans only seem to care about the ones who might actually agree with their extremist wingnut agenda.

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

Hey, equality doesn't matter I guess. Especially if you're a good old boy... because when you get convicted of a felony (Oliver North) or are even about to be tried for one (Richard Nixon) you just get pardoned and kept from losing your right to vote. Despite committing a crime.

 

Democrats care about all Americans. Republicans only seem to care about the ones who might actually agree with their extremist wingnut agenda.

 

 

What a bunch of hores***. Republicans are about empowering people people to run their own lives and Democrats are about consigning them to dependency on a socialist nanny state.

 

Also Wino, why should Republicans care about those who disagree with them. All you people know how to do is hurl insults and invective at their party and call their voters stupid.

 

Equality? Why should felons have the same rights as people who actually follow the law and why should people who show blatant disregard for our laws have a say in how they are made?

 

Like I said. This is another attempt by the left to scrape the bottom of the barrel of American society for votes to help shore up their dwindling constituency.

Edited February 19, 2005 by NUKE_CLEVELAND

[Rex Kickass]

Because I don't see an asterisk next to All men are created equal.

 

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like you're all for freedom and equality as long as the undesirable people in this society don't get to share the same rights.

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

Because I don't see an asterisk next to All men are created equal.

 

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like you're all for freedom and equality as long as the undesirable people in this society don't get to share the same rights.

 

 

Again.....Why should those who flout the law be allowed to have a say in how it's made?

[Rex Kickass]

Because they are American citizens. Guaranteed the same rights as you and I. I would think that's reason enough.

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

Because they are American citizens. Guaranteed the same rights as you and I. I would think that's reason enough.

 

 

Nobody forces people to rob banks or rape women, kidnap children, commit assault, steal cars or kill people and nobody takes people's right to vote away unless they do something like the aforementioned to deserve it. Stop crying and whining about the "rights" of those who damage society with their actions.

[FlaSoxxJim]

Nobody forces people to rob banks or rape women,  kidnap children, commit assault, steal cars or kill people and nobody takes people's right to vote away unless they do something like the aforementioned to deserve it.  Stop crying and whining about the "rights" of those who damage society with their actions.

 

And, interestingly, not a single white-collar crime in that list. Any reason why not?

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

And, interestingly, not a single white-collar crime in that list.  Any reason why not?

 

 

Fair enough. Those guilty of embezellment, mail fraud, perjury etc....etc... should also be disallowed.

 

 

A felon is a felon no matter if they are violent or not and white collar felons tend to harm more people with their crimes than do violent ones.

[FlaSoxxJim]

Fair enough.  Those guilty of embezellment,  mail fraud, perjury etc....etc...  should also be disallowed.

A felon is a felon no matter if they are violent or not and white collar felons tend to harm more people with their crimes than do violent ones.

 

I just wanted to make sure both stripes were represented.

[Rex Kickass]

Sorry. I never saw the addendum to "all men are created equal." I'll make a note of it.

[Chisoxfn]

I see ZERo reason to make it a holiday. If you can't take 30 minutes of your day to an hour once every year then the hell with it. Its not a diffucult thing and you should be proud you get to vote at all cause its not the case in some countries.

[Chisoxfn]

I see ZERo reason to make it a holiday. If you can't take 30 minutes of your day to an hour once every year then the hell with it. Its not a diffucult thing and you should be proud you get to vote at all cause its not the case in some countries.

[FlaSoxxJim]

I see ZERo reason to make it a holiday.  If you can't take 30 minutes of your day to an hour once every year then the hell with it. Its not a diffucult thing and you should be proud you get to vote at all cause its not the case in some countries.

 

I see you feel doubly strong about this.

[FlaSoxxJim]

I see ZERo reason to make it a holiday.  If you can't take 30 minutes of your day to an hour once every year then the hell with it. Its not a diffucult thing and you should be proud you get to vote at all cause its not the case in some countries.

 

I see you feel doubly strong about this.

[FlaSoxxJim]

Sorry. I never saw the addendum to "all men are created equal." I'll make a note of it.

You never had to read "Animal Farm" in school?

[CubKilla]

Democrats care about all Americans. Republicans only seem to care about the ones who might actually agree with their extremist wingnut agenda.

 

This may be perhaps the most misinformed quote I ever read.

 

EVER

[Rex Kickass]

Well, Democrats in this board seem to generally agree that all men are created equal - and should be given the right to vote, even if they are an ex-con. Republican in this board seem to generally agree that ex-cons are not equal and would rather deny them the rights that they have given to them as American citizens.

 

Democrats here care about these Americans. The Republicans who have voiced their opions here don't. Sorry if it isn't sugarcoated enough for you.

[CubKilla]

Well, Democrats in this board seem to generally agree that all men are created equal - and should be given the right to vote, even if they are an ex-con. Republican in this board seem to generally agree that ex-cons are not equal and would rather deny them the rights that they have given to them as American citizens.

 

They have the right to vote until they commit a felony and are convicted in a court of law. It is generally accepted that when you commit and are convicted of a FELONY, you have given up your right to elect the future law makers of America.

 

Excuse me as a moderate if I don't shed a tear over the rights of burglars, armed robbers, child molesters, drunks that kill people other than themselves driving home from the bar, convicted murderers, gangbangers, etc., to vote.

 

And, quite frankly, I wouldn't want to side myself with a party worried about the rights of felons over the issues concerning law-abiding citizens.

Edited February 19, 2005 by CubKilla

[FlaSoxxJim]

They have the right to vote until they commit a felony and are convicted in a court of law. It is generally accepted that when you commit and are convicted of a FELONY, you have given up your right to elect the future law makers of America.

 

Excuse me as a moderate if I don't shed a tear over the rights of burglars, armed robbers, child molesters, drunks that kill people other than themselves driving home from the bar, convicted murderers, gangbangers, etc., to vote.

 

Once again, white collar criminals are amazingly (if not unpredictably) left off the hit list.

 

Is there a big machine somewhere that just pops you guys out?

 

Once you have been parolled and are an ex-felon, why should you not get back your right to participate in the democratic process?

[CubKilla]

Once again, white collar criminals are amazingly (if not unpredictably) left off the hit list.

 

Is there a big machine somewhere that just pops you guys out?

 

Once you have been parolled and are an ex-felon, why should you not get back your right to participate in the democratic process?

 

1. The "etc" after the 4 or 5 types of felons I mentioned would include those convicted of white collar crimes.

 

2. Felons should not be given back the right to elect lawmakers after being convicted of a felony. If you wanna vote, obey the law. It's quite simple actually.

[Rex Kickass]

They have the right to vote until they commit a felony and are convicted in a court of law. It is generally accepted that when you commit and are convicted of a FELONY, you have given up your right to elect the future law makers of America.

 

Excuse me as a moderate if I don't shed a tear over the rights of burglars, armed robbers, child molesters, drunks that kill people other than themselves driving home from the bar, convicted murderers, gangbangers, etc., to vote.

 

And, quite frankly, I wouldn't want to side myself with a party worried about the rights of felons over the issues concerning law-abiding citizens.

 

So instead you side with a party that tried to refuse to hold its leadership responsible when they've been charged with a felony. Fair enough.

[Soxy]

2. Felons should not be given back the right to elect lawmakers after being convicted of a felony. If you wanna vote, obey the law. It's quite simple actually.

 

Or.....

Break the law and don't get caught.

Or......

Break the law and have an expensive enough lawyer to get off...

[FlaSoxxJim]

1. The "etc" after the 4 or 5 types of felons I mentioned would include those convicted of white collar crimes. 

 

2. Felons should not be given back the right to elect lawmakers after being convicted of a felony. If you wanna vote, obey the law. It's quite simple actually.

 

Yes, yes, I believe that the etc. was intended to refer to the country club criminal contingent.

 

And it's not that simple. If we consider that once ex-cons are on the outside they are "rehabilitated" and have "paid their debt to society," it is proper and just to reinstate the right to vote. THAT is quite simple actually.

[Rex Kickass]

Our president was convicted of a DUI.

 

He just nominated someone to a federal judge post who has been practicing law in Utah for the last four years without a license.

 

He belongs to a party that recently ran a pardoned felon for Senate in Virginia.

 

And a party who's newest Senator from Oklahoma admitted to sterilizing teenage girls without their consent as a doctor and billing Medicare/Medicaid for it.

 

But somehow they're the ones to protect you from those voting criminals.

 

Fair enough.

[FlaSoxxJim]

Or.....

Break the law and don't get caught.

Or......

Break the law and have an expensive enough lawyer to get off...

 

Or break the law and cost taxpayers $1 billion in a S&L bailout but be lucky enough to be a Bush and have Asian hotties inexplicably come to your hotel and have sex with you for no apparant reason...