Iwritecode Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Feb 18, 2005 -> 09:08 AM) The frisbee is nice, but this year, I expect hitters to sit back and wait for it, he's gonna throw you one or two per at bat. I know it's a big adjustment for hitter, but I fear hitters are gonna start tattooing it for like 500 ft. homers. I wonder what that would do for Shingo's confidence. That's what people kept thinking about Foulke too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 (edited) Lets go with the obvious. A pitch that the japanese leagues are famous for. THE SHUTO!!!!!!!! shuto: a variation on the screwball that is popular among Japanese pitchers Japanese to English baseball terms Edited February 18, 2005 by southsideirish71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Feb 18, 2005 -> 11:54 AM) Lets go with the obvious. A pitch that the japanese leagues are famous for. THE SHUTO!!!!!!!! shuto: a variation on the screwball that is popular among Japanese pitchers Could be, but would Don Cooper know the pitch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 QUOTE(Iwritecode @ Feb 18, 2005 -> 05:51 PM) That's what people kept thinking about Foulke too... Good point and I don't want to open the 'did Foulke suck?' debate up again, I've seen it beaten to death. We saw hitters catch up to Foulke at times for a little while there, he adjusted and came back strong. It seems Shingo is trying to stay ahead of the game, good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 18, 2005 -> 11:55 AM) Could be, but would Don Cooper know the pitch? He developed it in the offseason. I believe Shingo went back to japan during this offseason. Cooper IMHO has few missions this spring. Convince all the pitchers to keep the ball down. Get the pitchers to throw inside a bit to offset their offspeed. Keep Contreras from falling in love with his splitter. That is all he has to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 And I dont believe it is very easy to hit a 50 mph pitch 500 ft. Its easier to go yeard when the ball has something on it. But if they sit back, he will "blow" his fastball by them. 1, 2, 3, He gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 Spitball? Gumball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Feb 18, 2005 -> 01:22 PM) All I know is that if it is a cutter he better not go off and hurt himself with it. The last thing we need is for him to mess up his arm trying to throw it. The screwball is the toughest on the elbow, I believe. Is there even anybody in MLB who throws one now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxmatt Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Feb 18, 2005 -> 12:00 PM) Keep Contreras from falling in love with his splitter. Contreras is going to be project for Cooper. Besides keeping him from using the splitter too much, he also needs to help Contreras get is fastball over the damn plate because thats one reason he used his splitter so much last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 QUOTE(Leonard Zelig @ Feb 18, 2005 -> 01:39 PM) The screwball is the toughest on the elbow, I believe. Is there even anybody in MLB who throws one now? Jim Mecir throws one. The crewball is not that hard on the arm. It is just very difficult to throw with any command. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 QUOTE(Leonard Zelig @ Feb 18, 2005 -> 01:39 PM) The screwball is the toughest on the elbow, I believe. Is there even anybody in MLB who throws one now? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I could've sworn Johan was using one last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Feb 17, 2005 -> 11:03 PM) Maybe something crazy like a screwball..... Does it go 103 MPH? I know of a poster here who would love that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxman352000 Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Feb 18, 2005 -> 06:00 PM) Keep Contreras from falling in love with his splitter. that is the biggest thing that he must do this spring imo. I remember that Texas game when jose only lasted like 1 2/3 innings or something, all the spilt finger pitches he threw were way to low or they were belt high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 doesnt javier use a screwball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 I think it's a screwball. If it is that's great. The Knuckler would be great too, but I don't know how much of it would work against lefties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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