jackie hayes Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Feb 26, 2005 -> 03:35 PM) Just some things to be wary of with Muhsin; In 2002 he only had 63 receptions and 2003 only 54 receptions. Last year he really found a comfort zone with Jake Delhomme however, but it took at least a season to get that to work. So I don't know if he'll have major instant success, but Grossman has a big go to guy in the end zone now, which is what the Bears DESPERATELY needed. He's 31 at the moment, probably be about 34 since it's a multi-year deal when it's up, can he keep producing at that age? Still I think it's a great signing though, and the Bears shouldn't pull away from drafting a WR just beacuse they sign Muhammed. Edwards or Mike Williams could provide more in the long run than Benson or Williams, if Lovie Smith goes with a pass happy offense. His decline mostly coincided with Steve Smith's emergence, so I don't think this is much of a concern. I'm pretty happy about this, good work by the Bears. (I was hoping for Coles, somehow, but that never seemed very likely.) Whoever they take in the draft, this is a good move. It keeps them from drafting for need, they can go strictly for the best player, wr or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Great signing for the Bears. I was hoping the Chiefs would try to go after him, but they need Law more. I doubt that one will happen either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Feb 27, 2005 -> 03:50 AM) Great signing for the Bears. I was hoping the Chiefs would try to go after him, but they need Law more. I doubt that one will happen either. William you'd definitely know more about the Chiefs than me, do they have the cap room to acquire Woodson from the Raiders, even though it's highly unlikely the Raiders would trade within their own division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 The Chiefs are only like 4.5 million under the cap, and that's not with releasing anyone either. I mean, at least they're under the cap, but not by much so I don't know if they could get a trade for Woodson even if the Raiders wanted to trade with the Chiefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 I'd like it if he traded the pick to get 2 first rounders and go for quanity, not quality. When I first saw this, I was amazed, I didn't think anyone would want to come here to help us. This probably could be one of many moves that occur this off-season. How much money do we have remaining? I know there's a salary cap in the NFL. I'd say we need 1-2 more lineman, and more play makers. Was Jones consistent last year? I didn't remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Wow, awesome signing for the bears. WR was our biggest need and angelo came up w/ a proven player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Sweet deal. I thought it was just a pipedream to get a Pro Bowl Wide Reciever here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 YES YES YES YES YES YES YES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Great signing by the bears. Cant believe we didnt have any WR who caught >2 touchdowns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credepopsup Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Excellent signing - I think CB is a position that JA will now look to in the draft. Zoom's contract is up after next season, and the Bears won't have the $ to pay him, and RW will more than likely be cut. I wouldn't be surprised to see Rolle taken at #4, IF Angelo keeps the pick that is. The Bears top 3 CB's in 2006 = Peanut, Rolle and Vasher, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 I love how this opens up our draft options now. Even Johnson is an option. RB? WR still? Trade down for OL? Ah I love how Angelo is a lot like KW in the under the radar sense. Just a few days ago he said we won't be very active in free agency... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Excellent signing; truly first-class. Now that Muhammad is on board, Angelo has a little more flexibilty on draft day. Although the WR core is nowhere near complete, he can now look at a few other positions a little more carefully. WR- I'm sorry, but Wade and Gage are not the answer. These two are #3 recievers on a good squad and that's where they deserve to be. Berrian is nothin more than a glorified special-teams player and should be used on the fly route only. I still have to believe Angelo has his eyes set on an impact offensive player with the #4 selection. He has made it known he does not plan on trading that pick away and I really think he's going to stick around and snag that offensive body: WR, RB, whatever he feels will most benefit the club. RB- With Muhammad on board, Angelo can toy around with the thought of drafting a RB with #4. Although the Bears organization is high on Jones (as well they should be), I think Benson, Carnell Williams, and Ronnie Brown take a look. Its going to be interesting to see what kind of combine Brown has, but I'm still a little apprehensive selecting him at #4. Honestly, I would take Benson with pick #4 if he were to fall, but I'd still take Mike Williams or Braylon Edwards on the offensive side of the ball. CB- Whoever thinks RW and Azumah are above-average corners are downright goofy. RW should be cut this season, and Azumah is far from tough, defensive corner. He's just too raw and is unable to cover the big recievers. Although I like him on special teams, he shouldn't be a #2, or even a nickel corner. If Angelo wants to go defense with #4, look for Rolle and Pac-Man to get a good look. I'm really high on Rolle and would be quite satisfied with that selection. QB- Angelo can't take a QB in the first round. Grossman is his boy and I think they really want to see what he can do when healthy. I think a QB will be brought in this season wheter its in the later rounds or via free agency. The Bears organization really likes Hutchinson and feel that after a full pre-season, he can be a very capable backup. David Terrell, you're plane is boarding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 i think the only other move we need to make in free agency is a RG.... other than that id keep it to the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Any details on the contract, or information on the Bears overall cap situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 I think 10 mil signing bonus. 3 years. Not sure exactly though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confederate_48 Posted February 26, 2005 Author Share Posted February 26, 2005 But it is assumed that Muhammad will receive in the area of $12 million in total guarantees and will earn an average of between $5 million-$6 million in the first three seasons. Thats all ive found out about the contract so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Feb 26, 2005 -> 08:54 AM) That is most certainly one of the Bears biggest needs...it will change how the Bears draft as well. Now that make me a happy Bears fan!!!! This'll allow them to concentrate somewhat more on the O Line positions but they still have some work to do at wideout. Id like to see them nail down at least one more veteran reciever before I'll feel much better about that position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confederate_48 Posted February 26, 2005 Author Share Posted February 26, 2005 http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=bear...ov=st&type=lgns According to this its a 6 year deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 i doubt its 6 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxhawks Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 the only way the bears will draft d is with johnson, otherwise its rb or receiver, there is no way we draft a corner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Johnson, Urlacher, Briggs = Best in the League! Muhammed, Edwards, Terrell= Among the top in the league. Jones, Benson= Among the best as well. You choose! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 i wouldnt consider Jones, Benson among the best since we dont know how good Benson is actually going to be. And with Edwards or Williams are WR corps would be good not among the best now on the LB crew you are correct that would be either the best or one of the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credepopsup Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 (edited) A six year deal it is. A couple of years longer than I thought it would be. USA TODAY ARTICLE Edited February 26, 2005 by Credepopsup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 It's 6 years but it's probably really a 2-3 year deal in practice. I think Rolle is too slow, unless he shows otherwise this weekend. I think Pac-Man is an intriguing way to go, but Rolle would be overdrafted at 4. THis certianly does give the BEars mor eoptions. Being Muhammed is 31, it might still be int he best interests of the team long term to draft a young, elite receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox91403 Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Somebody help, who is this Johnson you are speaking of, I'm drawing a blank. Also, I'm extremely happy with Muhamed signing. But, in a big way it pisses me off too, not that he signed, but the fact that there is a debate over who to draft now. By letting A-Train walk away, Angelo has to find another quality runner, when last year he had 1, (Train) and a serviceable bum (Jones). I'm sorry, I hate Thomas Jones. So rather than draft Williams with the 4, The Bears have to worry about another RB when keeping Train would have been the answer. Angelo has dome some really good things, but I hate him for the way he has treated A-Train and I hate Michigan too. They need to keep Terrell too, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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