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QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Mar 11, 2005 -> 12:34 PM)
You find a sports bar yet Jas

NOt yet, was looking to see if the game would be online somehow. But I think I'm gonna go to the one I usually go to watch the Bears. I just don't know if they do basketball so I'm gonna call em.

 

I am getting ready to eat but if I go to the bar I'd probably eat there. They got a killer cheesesteak.

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QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Mar 11, 2005 -> 12:45 PM)
Solid. Hope you can find the game somewhere.

Thanks, I sure as hell hope I don't show up to watch an asswhooping. I'm getting pumped about the Hawks cause they have a really good young nucleus and Pierce getting dropped has meant Haluska (sophmore) is getting more minutes and the guy is gonna be a stud.

 

Was a state champ in sprinting or something along those lines and has very good size. Stole him from ISU where he transferred from :)

 

God damn if Iowa can pull this one off they better get in. And for whoever said they have been playing bad since losing Pierce, all I can say is they lost like the first two but since then they have been winning again (4 in a row). However two of those wins were Purdue, one Michigan and then the one OSU won. But I think they are gelling and still have Brunner, Horner, Haluska, Hansen (very good defensive center), Mike Henderson and some young freshman that names escape me (one of them is Alex Thompson who was I think Iowa player of the year last year in high school).

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QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Mar 11, 2005 -> 12:59 PM)
Haluska is a damn good player, i like watchin him play.

 

However, i hate Alford and Iowa, so i'll be pulling for the classy Izzo in this one.

I think Alford is a good recruiter and I think he's smart, but thus far he's failed miserably at Iowa. I always wonder what would of happened had Recker been healthy because him and Reggie Evans were some force and should of made some noise in the tourney.

 

I'm hoping this whole Pierce situation is the motivating force to get Iowa back on track but if they lose then he gets canned and well no biggie.

 

As far as Iowa goes, I'm torn. I think the big 10 is weak in the middle but at the same time I think other conferences are being way overhyped. MSU, Illinois and Wisconsin are all good teams, MSU and Ill being two teams that could go deep. In the middle you have a lot of teams with talent that just haven't clicked.

 

I'm telling everyone Iowa has the talent, even without Pierce, its more of a sense of them clicking and playing right which I think they can. Just one senior on the squad and he isn't much of a player at all. They are a team built to do somethings the next couple years, imo.

 

But no, they shoudln't get in unless they beat MSU or play really damn good against em. In which case IU would have to lose (if they lose but only play really good). I think it helps that you have some of the other bubble teams playing bad and hurting there chances.

 

A week ago I'd of told you know way the Hawks deserve in but the recent winning streak has me thinking otherwise. 20 wins, a lot of big wins against tourney bound clubs, and talent. The only thing going against them and its a big thing is their conference record.

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God i hate this. It shouldn't be about what they can/can't do without pierce, it should be about what they've done this season, period.

 

You may not agree, but whatever. Let's say Illinois starters all get hurt tomorrow. They should still be a 1 seed based on what they've done, not what the committee now thinks they can do. If you base it off of what you think teams can do, you should just make the bracket before the season starts based on potential.

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QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Mar 11, 2005 -> 01:09 PM)
God i hate this. It shouldn't be about what they can/can't do without pierce, it should be about what they've done this season, period.

 

You may not agree, but whatever. Let's say Illinois starters all get hurt tomorrow. They should still be a 1 seed based on what they've done, not what the committee now thinks they can do. If you base it off of what you think teams can do, you should just make the bracket before the season starts based on potential.

I agree with that. Just think of when Kenyon Martin went down (I think it was Kenyon) in the conference tourney and Cincy who was gonna be a #1 seed all along. Now they got dropped early but they should of still been a #1 and not a #2.

 

Regardless of the fact, I look at how a team has played all season because thats what your playing for. You shouldn't get in because they don't think your as good anymore because a guy is done. If the team has played good enough all year to warrant entry then they should be in.

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I can agree with that. But the committee likes to look good also, if they place Iowa at a 8#-9# seed say and they get blown out, it doesn't look good for the committee. Does it make it right? Probably not. Does it make for a better NCAA tourney? I think it does.

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QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Mar 11, 2005 -> 01:16 PM)
I don't see how Iowa could get blown out as an 8 or 9 seed in the first game

I don't either. I'm not saying they are the best out there, but if they win they better get in. A lot of the bubble teams have struggled and a win over MSU shows that they can play with pretty much anyone.

 

I'm biased though so what do I know, LOL. I'm gonna be antsy to get to the bar to watch the game.

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