qwerty Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 QUOTE(thomsonmi @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 04:07 PM) Joe hit .174 with 57 strikeouts in 201 at bats last year with an OPS of .587. While Timo isn't exactly my favorite player on the team his career batting average is .269 and his career OPS is .691. Is a .269 career average, .306 obp, and .691 ops something to be excited about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 04:08 PM) Borchard's always played everyday too. who has better career stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 No, but as a bench player, coming off the bench his stats were exceptional last season in clutch situations...THAT is what is important. QUOTE(qwerty @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 04:09 PM) Is a .269 career average, .306 obp, and .691 ops something to be excited about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(3E8 @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 04:09 PM) which is it? upside or potential? You asked me what has timo ever DONE. only have better career offensive numbers than Borchard in everything. His numbers still suck. We could have signed someone for league mininum and they would have put up numbers like his. He is a waste of one million dollars. Edited March 7, 2005 by qwerty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsonmi Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 03:09 PM) Is a .269 career average, .306 obp, and .691 ops something to be excited about? Nope. But, we were comparing here. I'm not advocating cutting Joe. I just think there's no way he should make the opening day roster over Timo. And, I'm not advocating that Timo is a great player. He's better and more dependable than Joe right now. I don't how this is even an argument. Joe needs to prove himself. He needs to have some success at some level of baseball before he's given a spot on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 no offense, but the debate between timo and joe seems pretty ridiculous, I mean, they are both pretty s***ty. I know they are reserves, but I still think there are ALOT of bench players than are better than both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 QUOTE(3E8 @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 04:10 PM) who has better career stats? Who has 1093 more at-bats in the majors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 10:09 PM) Is a .269 career average, .306 obp, and .691 ops something to be excited about? Nobody is saying that Timo is anything special. I think it has more to do with how freaking bad Borchard is. Maybe he is showing us something today, but unless he can prove that he can perform when it counts (which Timo has actually done occasionally), there is no use for him as a player off the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 04:00 PM) Borchard>timo? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Please. How about Walker>Cotts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Update on the game you guys can create another post on who is worse of a player Timo por Joe-blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Sweeney ropes it....right into the CF's glove. Got good wood though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 04:11 PM) His numbers still suck. We could have signed someone for league mininum and they would have put up numbers like his. He is a waste of one million dollars. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> :headshake Find someone who had 8 assists and 4 DP in 615 IP, and batted .412 with runners in scoring position and two outs. Timo Perez (career RISP) 289 AB .318 AVG .350 OBP 3 HR 125 RBI 20 BB 28 K men on two outs: .289 BA, .710 OPS man on third less than two outs: .462 BA, .990 OPS Don't you want a guy with numbers like this for our bench? Who give a f*** how much he is making? We filled all of our holes didn't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 04:11 PM) His numbers still suck. We could have signed someone for league mininum and they would have put up numbers like his. He is a waste of one million dollars. ^ | | = Pwned | | Lightspeed got you on this one qwert. This last post proves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 04:15 PM) Please. How about Walker>Cotts? At getting lefties out he is most likely. Can anyone really argue that it would be best for cotts down the line that he needs another year of triple a to work on some things? Edited March 7, 2005 by qwerty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsonmi Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 03:16 PM) Update on the game you guys can create another post on who is worse of a player Timo por Joe-blow. "Joltin' Joe" coming up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Cotts needs to work on a third pitch he can actually throw. He throws FASTBALLS constantly and almost nothing else with any confidence, so yes, I think Cotts SHOULD be in AAA for a bit, but a lot of people disagree with me. QUOTE(qwerty @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 04:18 PM) At getting lefties out he is most likely. Can anyone really argue that is would be best for cotts down the line that he needs another year of triple a to work on some things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsonmi Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 03:18 PM) Got good wood though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Should've brought in Timo with that runner on third with two outs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Just saw the new Shingo commercial. Loved it. It was b****ing. No wonder this guy loves it in Chicago, he already has his own special intro and full length commercial. Win. Or die trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 04:18 PM) :headshake Find someone who had 8 assists and 4 DP in 615 IP, and batted .412 with runners in scoring position and two outs. Timo Perez (career RISP) 289 AB .318 AVG .350 OBP 3 HR 125 RBI 20 BB 28 K men on two outs: .289 BA, .710 OPS man on third less than two outs: .462 BA, .990 OPS Don't you want a guy with numbers like this for our bench? Who give a f*** how much he is making? We filled all of our holes didn't we? How has hit with none on in his entire career? Many more times than not you come up with no one on. Edited March 7, 2005 by qwerty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 It's nice to see clips of Frank working out! They say "He hopes to be back sooner than anyone expects." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(qwerty @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 04:22 PM) How has hit with none on in his entire career? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not as well. But why worry about his numbers without runners on when he will be used as a bench player? EDIT: Timo's numbers without runners on are stillbetter than Borchard's, so I really don't understand why you have decided to beat a dead horse, again. :headshake Edited March 7, 2005 by santo=dorf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 lol...Borchard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 04:23 PM) Not as well. But why worry about his numbers without runners on when he will be used as a bench player? Bench players do not just come in with runners on. They come in at all different times. With people in scoring position, not with people in scoring position, need to get a bunt down, etc. Do you not agree he is over paid at one million dollars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 I still have to wait three weeks for Comcast. God. Damn. How's Sweeney looking? Have to root for an Iowa boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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