can anyone stop Dee Brown

[soxman35]

sports Illistrated list 5 player they think can stop dee brown

Raymond Felton from North Carolina

Darren Brooks from Southern Illinois

Jarrett Jack from Georgia Tech

Eddie Basden from Charlotte

Rajon Rondo from Kentucky

 

sports Illistrated said that but i dont think so i think he is unstopable he has not been stoped by any of these players yet i think he is the best

[Nokona]

I AR EIN THE LUV WITH D BROWN!!1111111111111111

 

I actually am, but he's not invincible.

Edited March 9, 2005 by Nokona

[soxman35]

I AR EIN THE LUV WITH D BROWN!!1111111111111111

 

I actually am, but he's not invincible.

who do u think will stop him

[santo=dorf]

QUOTE(soxman35 @ Mar 8, 2005 -> 07:11 PM)

who do u think will stop him

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The Crowd at Ohio State.

[soxman35]

The Crowd at Ohio State. 

yeah but i dont think any other crowd or player will beat on him again

[SoxFan1]

"With the 1st pick in the 2005 NBA Draft, the New Orleans Hornets select.....Dee Brown, PG, Illinois."

[Gene Honda Civic]

"With the 1st pick in the 2005 NBA Draft, the New Orleans Hornets select.....Dee Brown, PG, Illinois."

That would be a terrible pick -- I think both Williams and Head have better pro futures than D.

 

Williams is a big true PG

Head has vastly improved his stock, and can be a ben Gordon like player...

D is in between PG and SG, and doesn't really have the size...

 

Best case scenario for D is Williams leaving early this year, and D proving that he can run the point being the only option.

[AssHatSoxFan]

do we really need like 80 dee brown threads... i mean im an illini fan and whatnot but kummon

[southsider2k5]

"With the 1st pick in the 2005 NBA Draft, the New Orleans Hornets select.....Dee Brown, PG, Illinois."

 

No way in hell.

[SoxFan1]

No way in hell.

I wasn't serious guys relax. It was a symbolic quote showing that the only people who can TRY to stop him is the NBA.

[southsider2k5]

I wasn't serious guys relax. It was a symbolic quote showing that the only people who can TRY to stop him is the NBA.

 

Actually two of those guys on the list earlier posted would make a good run at him. Rondo is an incredible defender, and Felton's size would give Brown tons of problems 1 on 1.

 

Brown gets the benefit of playing on an incredible team right now, and that makes arguements like this dificult. If Brown was the only star on a team, he would have a much more Bracey Wright like line of great nights and off nights.

[soxman35]

i dont know i can see him becoming a big name player in the nba he is so fast and stronge and can make his shots reminds me of Allen Iverson

[GoodAsGould]

i see Dee being a good player in the NBA but not dominant..... and he will prob never even be close to the star that AI is.

 

 

and Head is a 2nd round pick and not near the shooter that Ben Gordon is.

Edited March 9, 2005 by SoxFan101

[IlliniKrush]

I don't give two s***s how Dee Brown does in the NBA.

 

This crap is irrelevant for this time of year.

[Kalapse]

I don't give two s***s how Dee Brown does in the NBA.

 

This crap is irrelevant for this time of year.

f*** ya it's March Madness time.

 

Get pumped b****ES!!!

[Fotop]

To get back on topic, the answer to the question posed in the title is yes, someone can stop Dee Brown. And that person is...

 

Dee Brown

 

I know I'm going to catch a ton of flak for this, but I have a tape of a 2nd rd game two years ago (Illinois v. ND, RCA Dome 2nd rd NCAA) to help my cause if anyone wants to watch. Also, I've been watching Dee since High School, he played my High School twice a year and we're the same age so I saw him play for four years. And what I could conclude is...

 

Dee Brown is not clutch.

 

Grill me all you want, but when the game is on the line he's the last person I want taking a shot for me or doing anything else important for that matter. Maybe 2 yrs of high-pressure college ball has changed him, certainly he looks much more mature this year. Maybe clutch isn't something you can really define. But in my personal case I'm taking I'll believe it when I see it policy with him.

 

Dee has all the talent in the world, I'm not arguing that. I'm just questioning an intangible, unquantifiable quality that he may or may not possess. IMHO, he does not posses it (clutchness that is), and that is why he can be stopped.

 

Will any of this matter? Possibly, however he has the talent around him where he doesn't need to be the go-to-guy. Like I said it's best to just wait and see.

 

You can all start storming my house now with your pitchforks.

[IlliniKrush]

I don't know what you saw in HS so i can't really comment on it, but that game against ND, i want to emphasize the fact that he was a freshman in his first big game in the ncaa tournament (no, western kentucky doesn't count as a big game). We all know how much experience matters in the tournament (which is why i like our chances now). The whole team was anti-clutch, most notably Bill Self, so to label him the reason we lost (whether you are really doing that or not i don't know) is not correct. We got outplayed that game and ND made every thing they shot up. I really don't see how he was anti-clutch and how it stood out to you so much. My main defense is he was a freshman, take it or leave it.

 

Dee, since then, has put up some games. He was the Big Ten Player of the Year this year, and the Defensive player of the year. To win those honors, somewhere along the line you would have had to been clutch, by nature. You don't win awards if you don't show up in big games.

 

At Purdue - Hit some big threes in that second half to lead us to a comeback victory. He was the story that game.

 

At MSU - 7-13, 18 pts

 

At Michigan - Do i even need to describe this one? Single handedly won that game with his defense and layups.

 

Now, i know clutch to you may be only a last second shot or something...i agree. But i also think it is stepping up in 1. big games and 2. at big times other than the very last minute.

 

Now, the majority of our wins weren't that close this year, so we didn't really need anyone to be clutch. In the few that were, Dee was usually pretty good.

 

We lost one game. Was it Dee's fault? Sure he played like crap. Who didn't for us Sunday? I wouldn't label that "not clutch" and throw it on him. Even the last minute, he didn't even touch the damn ball on important plays. He was having an off day like everyone else.

 

Before you bring up some of last year's games, let's just admit to the fact that he couldn't shoot a lick the whole first half (or more) of the season.

 

Dee's a different player than he was freshman year or sophomore year, and arguably at the start of this year. He's a leader now. To be perfectly honest, i want the ball in his hands in this tournament if the game is on the line. I want him doing things. He won the POY deservedly because he won us some big games. This team will only go as far as Dee can take us, to be honest. If he doesn't show up, this team's in trouble. But i have a hard time believing he won't be 'clutch' in this tournament. We'll see what happens though.

[IlliniKrush]

Not making excuses, but this probably was a factor.

 

From Tupper's Blog:

 

 

I don’t want to become obsessed with the mysterious play of Dee Brown in Sunday’s loss at Ohio State, but since I’ve never seen a player with such a dynamic personality suddenly turn into a bland bystander, I’ve given this a lot of thought. And, I’ve asked a lot of questions.

 

Here are some possibilities:

 

Dee’s teeth. I don’t entirely buy this one and he certainly doesn’t offer it as an excuse, but if you’ve ever had a bad toothache, you know it can be distracting and make you feel pretty lousy. Dee has had tooth problems for quite a while, apparently, and they’ve been bothering him somewhat significantly the past two weeks. The situation got so bad that on Monday, he scheduled a dental appointment to received what he called his third root canal this year.

 

“I was having a real throbbing toothache,” Brown said after arriving at practice on Tuesday. “I had a root canal on that same tooth. I had fillings on my whole left side. I really didn’t have time to go in, but I made time and got that situated.”

 

Was it bothering him Sunday? “It wasn’t the reason I played bad, but it was bothering me.”

 

I asked Weber if he’d come up with a reason for Brown’s curious play, which, in my opinion, showed such a shrinking level of energy that it contaminated the rest of the team. His personality on this team, by the way, is that strong. It can lift the entire team and it can drag the entire team down.

 

“Everything just went his way the last few weeks and it went easy and all of a sudden it wasn’t easy,” Weber said. “I think it was that more than anything. Then you want to do well and mentally you’re not ready to do well. It kind of caught up with him a little bit.

 

“He wears his emotions on his sleeve more than some of the guys. The thing is – and I tell him this all the time – because of his personality and enthusiasm and his smile, when he doesn’t have it, everybody notices it and it’s almost blown out of proportion. People think, ‘You’re not supposed to be that way Dee Brown. You’re supposed to be happy and joyful.’

 

“I tell him all the time, ‘It’s hard to be Dee Brown.’

 

“He had just been on Sports Illustrated, they did want to be 30-0 and he felt he let us down. Sports Illustrated called him the best attraction in college hoops and he is an attraction and the fans play off of it. Everybody does.”

 

Maybe Brown got momentarily tired of everyone looking to him for that trigger of emotion and subconsciously retreated after throwing up that first air ball. Maybe that’s when he needed someone else to be Dee Brown for a minute or two. But with Deron Williams and Luther Head fighting their own problems, there was no other Dee Brown. As a result, there was not the same Illinois basketball team we’ve seen perform so admirably since November.

 

On Tuesday, Brown was obviously hurting. One side of his face looked swollen after the dental work. But he sounded intent on making amends. And anxious to do so.

 

Has the sting worn off, Dee? “No, not at all. And it will motivate me for the rest of the season. Of course I was disappointed we lost. We understand now. We already knew we could lose. Now it happened. And it feels so much worse inside. But you have to look to the future. Nine more games. Hopefully we can just keep getting better.”

[SoxAce]

I wish the best of luck to Brown. He, Reddick and Stotomire (sp?) are my favorites to watch.

[Fotop]

Like I said Krush, it's been two years since I've seen him personally, and I agree that he's gotten a hell of a lot better...I just want to see him in high-pressure situations.

 

Regular season big 10 games do not qualify as high-pressure. I agree with your definition of clutch, but the game also needs to be right as well, and one and done situations are just that. Illinois hadn't lost all year and losing really didn't mean much (they've been a lock for a 1 seed for awhile now).

 

Let's just see how he does when the SEASON is on the line, that's all I'm saying. I know he's talented enough to do well, it's just in my personal experience with him I haven't seen anything to prove that.