SnB Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 I'm the first to break the news of a sox pickup/trade with just about everyone i know. I like being the knowledgable one....at least for something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted March 10, 2005 Author Share Posted March 10, 2005 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 10:57 PM) I live in Iowa. About 30 miles from the Minnesota border. But I hate all Minnesota sports. I hate the Twins, Vikings, and Timberwolves. Sorry....you live in Iowa. :headshake BTW, Punch and Judy Garland....I sometimes make up stats to give my argument the extra UMPH! too. :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 07:24 PM) You make a good point, but I will say that I think sometimes (trust me-myself included) can come off to casual fans as elitest and intimidate people into avoiding baseball because they don't know enough. I don't believe this anecdote applies to your particular situation, just something to remember. One of point I should make in the interest of accuracy is that The Whiffer Patterson is a much better defender than Pods.  Excellent post Punch . I read this board almost every day and yet I cant see myself having thousands of posts about the White Sox. Yes I'm a huge Sox fan have been since i was 10 yrs old 37 yrs ago. I know the team inside and out but, woo boy there are a bunch of argumentative know-it-alls on this website. I swear half of them must fantasize about being the Sox GM. The way they know stats and argue about the tiniest crap amazes me. I mean yesterday's game thread was ruined by guys arguing who's worth more to the Sox Timo or Borchard. Elitist ?? Hell yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 QUOTE(CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 09:03 PM) Excellent post Punch . I read this board almost every day and yet I cant see myself having thousands of posts about the White Sox. Yes I'm a huge Sox fan have been since i was 10 yrs old 37 yrs ago. I know the team inside and out but, woo boy there are a bunch of argumentative know-it-alls on this website. I swear half of them must fantasize about being the Sox GM. The way they know stats and argue about the tiniest crap amazes me. I mean yesterday's game thread was ruined by guys arguing who's worth more to the Sox Timo or Borchard. Elitist ?? Hell yes! I don't see it as being elitest when people are debating who should be the Sox reserve outfielder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted March 10, 2005 Author Share Posted March 10, 2005 Neither do I. It was a valid, controlled argument that highly affects the team. BTW, it was 2 days ago when Borch hit the 2 HR's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 ...you elitists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 QUOTE(Pauly8509CWS @ Mar 10, 2005 -> 02:51 AM) Oh I see how it is, I'm not a good enough baseball person anymore??? lol  Tom, you know how it is.  I say the word 'OPS', heads are turning because they've become bored.  Whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Mar 10, 2005 -> 02:52 AM) I do the exact same thing. I don't even wanna get into it. I don't wanna start an argument even if they are clearly wrong. Just not worth the time.  Yeah, I know what you're saying.  If you want to, you could argue it -- but you know you do, you'll either a.) leave the person dumbfounded by their lack of understanding of a certain statistic or, b.) be made fun of for an knowing too much about a team, and being told to 'get a life', or something along those lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted March 10, 2005 Author Share Posted March 10, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 11:15 PM) Yeah, I know what you're saying. If you want to, you could argue it -- but you know you do, you'll either a.) leave the person dumbfounded by their lack of understanding of a certain statistic or, b.) be made fun of for an knowing too much about a team, and being told to 'get a life', or something along those lines. EXACTLY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly8509CWS Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 09:13 PM) Tom, you know how it is. I say the word 'OPS', heads are turning because they've become bored.  Whatever.  I'm just messin with ya, theres like 3 people we know that are able to carry on a baseball conversation without, CUBS/SOX suck... usually that gets me involved, and you kicked my ass in the eric milton argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without_opinion Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 33% of statistics are made up on the spot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 There are elitists in every area of interest. I don't think we have many here, but just more that good fans and good people accidentally stray that way at times. That said, it's March and if we can't argue about Timo Perez then this is going to be a long month. Lastly, We can't really whine about not having enough fans at the ballpark and then criticize those who come on half-price night and don't know who the starting pitcher is. You gotta take the good with the bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 09:15 PM) Yeah, I know what you're saying. If you want to, you could argue it -- but you know you do, you'll either a.) leave the person dumbfounded by their lack of understanding of a certain statistic or, b.) be made fun of for an knowing too much about a team, and being told to 'get a life', or something along those lines. Exactly.  I just go yep, agreed, nods head, yes, uh-huh, sure, whatever. Unless it's Sox bashing then I snap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 (edited) Neither do I. It was a valid, controlled argument that highly affects the team. BTW, it was 2 days ago when Borch hit the 2 HR's. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And how often does Borchie do that? He can't even reach the Mendoza Line. Joe has created the Borchard line by batting under .175. I think Kenny should dump him while he still has some trade value left after that big 2 homer game. We only have 1 more option on him. After that, he will have to clear waivers if we want to send him to the minors. Edited March 10, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted March 10, 2005 Author Share Posted March 10, 2005 It's so funny tho Jabroni because every time I take a really quick glance at your signature I think it is Borch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Mar 10, 2005 -> 03:23 AM) And how often does Borchie do that? He can't even reach the Mendoza Line. Joe has created the Borchard line by batting under .175. I think Kenny should dump him while he still has some trade value left after that big 2 homer game. We only have 1 more option on him. After that, he will have to clear waivers if we want to send him to the minors.  No, it's just the constant ragging on Borchard that gets tiresome.  Yes, he hasn't succeeded. But, it's not like he's taken the money and run -- from all accounts, he's one of the hardest workers -- unfortunately, working hard doesn't always translate.  Maybe I'm a little biased because I'm probably the only person with a Joe Borchard jersey, but I dunno -- he seems like a blue collar guy who didn't make it. Oh well, move on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted March 10, 2005 Author Share Posted March 10, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 11:27 PM) No, it's just the constant ragging on Borchard that gets tiresome. Yes, he hasn't succeeded. But, it's not like he's taken the money and run -- from all accounts, he's one of the hardest workers -- unfortunately, working hard doesn't always translate.  Maybe I'm a little biased because I'm probably the only person with a Joe Borchard jersey, but I dunno -- he seems like a blue collar guy who didn't make it. Oh well, move on... s***....I'd be backing him up too if I spent $100 on that jersey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly8509CWS Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 09:27 PM) but I dunno -- he seems like a blue collar guy who didn't make it. Oh well, move on...  Pulford and Wirtz have 20 of those guys on the Hawks, he can be the first of the replacements... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yossarian Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 08:52 PM) I'm a girl and I follow the sox almost slavishly. So, yeah, I get teased quite a bit about it. Â A real man would love me for my obsession. *sigh* I'm too old, too broke and too married for you. I do hope you find a real man to share your obsession with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 No, it's just the constant ragging on Borchard that gets tiresome. Yes, he hasn't succeeded. But, it's not like he's taken the money and run -- from all accounts, he's one of the hardest workers -- unfortunately, working hard doesn't always translate.  Maybe I'm a little biased because I'm probably the only person with a Joe Borchard jersey, but I dunno -- he seems like a blue collar guy who didn't make it. Oh well, move on... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Did you forget about the big $5.3 million signing bonus the Sox gave him? With his horrible offensive output, he pretty much HAS taken the money and run. He will probably be in the NFL in a couple year a la Drew Henson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 (edited) Don't get me wrong, I love listening to mindless Cub dribble just as much as the rest of you guys, but I firmly believe in, "there's always a bigger guy." For as much as you know, or think you know, there is always someone out there that can talk you under the table on any given subject (politics, academics, sports, movies). There is nothing worse than talking like an expert on a subject only for someone to come along and either tear your logic to bits or correct nearly everything you just commented on. Â Punch, I couldn't agree more with you're point on non-knowledgeable ticket purchasing. If you come out to the ballpark, you don't need to know everything about baseball (not that I'm saying any of you are implying that). In fact, not one of you have even touched on that. That said, when Cub fans bring up attendance it's very, very tempting to say, "I'd rather have 8, 000 knowledgeable fans in my ballpark than 30,000 drunken, cell-phone yapping, phone-number hunting, yupee idiots. Edited March 10, 2005 by AddisonStSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Mar 10, 2005 -> 02:53 AM) I think it's hot when girls love sports. That's why everyone loves Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Mar 10, 2005 -> 03:34 AM) Did you forget about the big $5.3 million signing bonus the Sox gave him? With his horrible offensive output, he pretty much HAS taken the money and run. He will probably be in the NFL in a couple year a la Drew Henson.  Is it Borchard's fault the Sox gave him that much money?  I'm sure that if you were offered $5.3, you wouldn't defer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Yeah I have it both ways too. I rip Cubs fans for being yuppies and then can't stand fans who don't even know who Shingo is. Oh well. My cross to bear I guess. Borch didn't take the money and run. He's not Zack Randolph or aEddy Curry in 06. He hasn't been worht the money but that doesn't mean he stole it from the Sox. He's tried very hard and done everything the organization asked him. I think his only shot now is a change of scenery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Is it Borchard's fault the Sox gave him that much money? I'm sure that if you were offered $5.3, you wouldn't defer... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The Sox gave Borchard that much money because he looked like he deserved it from the way he hit at Stanford. Has he earned even $1 million of that $5.3 million? Hell no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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