southsider2k5 Posted April 11, 2003 Share Posted April 11, 2003 Are probably off to the two worst starts on the pitching staff so far. Does anyone think it is coincidence that they are the two sinker/ curveball pitchers? Could the cold be a big part of the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan420 Posted April 11, 2003 Share Posted April 11, 2003 Are probably off to the two worst starts on the pitching staff so far. Does anyone think it is coincidence that they are the two sinker/ curveball pitchers? Could the cold be a big part of the problem? it could very well be the cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted April 11, 2003 Share Posted April 11, 2003 Are probably off to the two worst starts on the pitching staff so far. Does anyone think it is coincidence that they are the two sinker/ curveball pitchers? Could the cold be a big part of the problem? Flash is mainly a curveball pitcher...the fastball only sets it up. I don't really think it's a coincidence, but who knows. Gordon probly still isn't 100%, and Garland is young and still developing and learning. We'll see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wong & Owens Posted April 11, 2003 Share Posted April 11, 2003 I don't think Garland "gets it" yet when it comes to pitching. If D Wright is healthy, send Garland to the pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted April 11, 2003 Share Posted April 11, 2003 I don't think Garland "gets it" yet when it comes to pitching. If D Wright is healthy, send Garland to the pen. Ya, i've always said that Garland has to learn how to "pitch", not just throw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted April 11, 2003 Share Posted April 11, 2003 I think its the cold wether. The curveball isnt as effective in the cold! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSOX45 Posted April 11, 2003 Share Posted April 11, 2003 Are probably off to the two worst starts on the pitching staff so far. Does anyone think it is coincidence that they are the two sinker/ curveball pitchers? Could the cold be a big part of the problem? it could very well be the cold. I'm convinced it is. Garland pitched well in KC, the defense just sucked. Look for Jon to get back on track against the Royals at Comiskey. CWSOX45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted April 11, 2003 Share Posted April 11, 2003 Are probably off to the two worst starts on the pitching staff so far. Does anyone think it is coincidence that they are the two sinker/ curveball pitchers? Could the cold be a big part of the problem? it could very well be the cold. I'm convinced it is. Garland pitched well in KC, the defense just sucked. Look for Jon to get back on track against the Royals at Comiskey. CWSOX45 Hopefully, that prediction is correct! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted April 11, 2003 Share Posted April 11, 2003 I think its the cold wether. The curveball isnt as effective in the cold! so what does that say about garland starting a playoff game on a cold ocotber night??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted April 11, 2003 Share Posted April 11, 2003 I hate to compare players on the same team, but just take a look at Mark Buehrle vs. Jon Garland. Mark hasn't had his A game 2 out of his 3 starts, and he's still got an ERA of 1.23 and he's got a 2-1 record. He's PITCHED his way to the 7th inning 2 times, and the other game he had his good stuff and went 8. Garland, on the other hand (and for that matter, most other pitchers on our staff), must have his A game to give the team a chance to win. It comes down to confidence I think. Mark just has the poise and demeanor of a 10 year veteran. Unfortunately, confidence cannot be bought -- it has to be learned, and Garland just needs to start trusting his stuff and I think many wins will follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 12, 2003 Share Posted April 12, 2003 I think its the cold wether. The curveball isnt as effective in the cold! so what does that say about garland starting a playoff game on a cold ocotber night??? It's October and not April Now, we're playing in the real season...but what do these 4 or 5 games pitched mean compared to 3 or 4 games pitched in October? One means a chance at winning the whole f***ing thing....and the other means virtually nothing. One means that if you throw out your arm in the last game you pitch and you pitched well, you saved your team....the other means that if you throw out your arm in the best game you pitched, you are a dumbass and should be slapped. When something is actually on the line....he hopefully realizes it and doesn't f*** around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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