Jabroni Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 (edited) http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...ort=MLB&id=6725 Latest News Mar. 16, 2005 - 5:45 pm et Rob Mackowiak went 3-for-4 with two home runs and a double today to raise his spring average to .577. The streaky Mackowiak picked a great time to go on a tear last season, as he got to start against right-handers for the rest of the season as a result of his big May. How much good this year's big spring will do him remains to be seen. He's a bit of a liability in center, but he's still probably a better option versus right-handers there than Tike Redman. http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...ort=MLB&id=6930 Latest News Mar. 16, 2005 - 5:39 pm et Ty Wigginton homered, doubled and drove in four runs today against the Yankees. Wigginton needed to hit this spring with Rob Mackowiak playing so well. Since he is batting .300 with two homers in 30 at-bats, he remains likely to be the everyday third baseman initially. Since the Pirates seem to be going with Wiggington at 3B and they already have Bobby Hill to backup 3B and 2B, is Mackowiak going to be on the trading block? They also have a glut of outfielders (Jason Bay, Matt Lawton, Tike Redman, and Craig Wilson) so they won't need Mackowiak to play there either. I think he would be the best possible backup for Crede. I wonder if the Pirates would be interested in Borchard, Willie, or Adkins. Edited March 16, 2005 by Jabroni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spod=Ratings Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Mar 16, 2005 -> 05:07 PM) http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...ort=MLB&id=6725 http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...ort=MLB&id=6930 Since the Pirates seem to be going with Wiggington at 3B and they already have Bobby Hill to backup 3B and 2B, is Mackowiak going to be on the trading block? They also have a glut of outfielders (Jason Bay, Matt Lawton, Tike Redman, and Craig Wilson) so they won't need Mackowiak to play there either. I think he would be the best possible backup for Crede. I wonder if the Pirates would be interested in Borchard, Willie, or Adkins. whats with you and mackowiak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 16, 2005 Author Share Posted March 16, 2005 (edited) whats with you and mackowiak? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sweet, sweet man-love. Edited March 16, 2005 by Jabroni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spod=Ratings Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Mar 16, 2005 -> 05:10 PM) Sweet, sweet man-love. I thought so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 246/319/420 with mediocre speed? no thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 16, 2005 Author Share Posted March 16, 2005 I thought so <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This lineup would kick ass against righties, as well... LF Pods (lefty) 2B Iguchi (righty) DH Everett (lefty) 1B Konerko (righty) RF Dye (righty) C Pierzynski (lefty) CF Rowand (righty) 3B Mackowiak (lefty) SS Uribe (righty) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 16, 2005 Author Share Posted March 16, 2005 (edited) 246/319/420 with mediocre speed? no thanks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He's good against righties. By the way, how is 13 stolen bases from a 3rd baseman considered "mediocre speed"? :rolly Just to prove you wrong again... http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/scouting?statsId=6725 Baserunning & Defense Mackowiak has very good speed and uses it wisely. He is a high-percentage basestealer and adept at going from first to third and second to home on base hits. Mackowiak is an adequate third baseman with good reflexes and a very strong arm but only ordinary range. He is a better defender in the outfield with the speed to play center, though he is smoother playing on one of the corners. Edited March 16, 2005 by Jabroni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 :sleep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 16, 2005 Author Share Posted March 16, 2005 (edited) :sleep <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What? You don't like Mackowiak? Edited March 16, 2005 by Jabroni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 What is this guy making, I think that's a big key here. I like Mackowiak and I suspect a lot of teams like him as well, including the Pirates. Did he win an arbitration award or something, I seem to recall he's making over $2M this year ... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Mar 16, 2005 -> 05:23 PM) What? You don't like Mackowiak? Believe it or not, some don't share the same man-crush for Mackowiak you seem to possess. He's nothing to write home about. I, on the other hand, have wanted Mackowiak for two years now. He'd be an excellent piece of the puzzle. I really think he'd contribute. Plus, he grew up a die-hard Sox fan. He'd love to play here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Mar 16, 2005 -> 05:27 PM) What is this guy making, I think that's a big key here. I like Mackowiak and I suspect a lot of teams like him as well, including the Pirates. Did he win an arbitration award or something, I seem to recall he's making over $2M this year ... ? 1.5 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Mar 16, 2005 -> 05:07 PM) http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...ort=MLB&id=6725 http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...ort=MLB&id=6930 Since the Pirates seem to be going with Wiggington at 3B and they already have Bobby Hill to backup 3B and 2B, is Mackowiak going to be on the trading block? They also have a glut of outfielders (Jason Bay, Matt Lawton, Tike Redman, and Craig Wilson) so they won't need Mackowiak to play there either. I think he would be the best possible backup for Crede. I wonder if the Pirates would be interested in Borchard, Willie, or Adkins. I would rather keep Atkins and Willie and ship Borchard and/or Felix "BigGun" Diaz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Wake me when you've got a hard on for a player that's 1) actually good. 2) available. (Littlefield has said that Macko's not going anywhere) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Hell if you could get Pitt to take Borch or Willie or maybe Diaz for him then it would be a decent deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 16, 2005 Author Share Posted March 16, 2005 What is this guy making, I think that's a big key here. I like Mackowiak and I suspect a lot of teams like him as well, including the Pirates. Did he win an arbitration award or something, I seem to recall he's making over $2M this year ... ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> "Bucs, Mackowiak avoid arbitration" http://pittsburgh.pirates.mlb.com/NASApp/m...s_pit&fext=.jsp PITTSBURGH -- With a potential Feb. 10 arbitration hearing looming, the Pirates and utility player Rob Mackowiak came to terms on a one-year deal Monday reportedly worth $1.5 million. Mackowiak earned $335,000 in 2004 while batting .246, and establishing career highs with 17 home runs, 75 RBIs and 13 stolen bases in 155 games. In addition to his base salary, the 28-year-old can earn $90,000 in performance bonuses next season based on starts and plate appearances. Mackowiak was the last of the Pirates' eight arbitration-eligible players to ink a deal this winter. He was the only Pirate to exchange salary figures with the team last week. Mackowiak was asking for$1.8 million while the Pirates had offered $1.35 million. So he's going to earn $1.5 million in 2005 with the possibility of earning $90,000 in performance bonuses (based on starts and plate appearances). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 16, 2005 Author Share Posted March 16, 2005 (edited) Wake me when you've got a hard on for a player that's 1) actually good. 2) available. (Littlefield has said that Macko's not going anywhere) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 1) I'd rather see him hitting 8th for the Sox than Crede. He also doesn't run like molasses on a cold day. 2) Anyone is available for the right price. I seem to recall the Pirates looking for a power-hitting outfielder via a trade. Did you ever think that Littlefield just said that to make teams offer more for Mackowiak? Just how Kenny said that Willie could be out starting 2nd baseman? GM's lie. Don't be so naive. Edited March 16, 2005 by Jabroni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Mar 16, 2005 -> 05:29 PM) Believe it or not, some don't share the same man-crush for Mackowiak you seem to possess. He's nothing to write home about. I, on the other hand, have wanted Mackowiak for two years now. He'd be an excellent piece of the puzzle. I really think he'd contribute. Plus, he grew up a die-hard Sox fan. He'd love to play here. Well with Hizzle My Shizzle Willie Harris showing he can play 2b, SS, and CF he can be the super utility guy. He is perfect for this job. Our main area of concern is 3b. Yes we can ship Uribe over, but this is a bandaid and not a solution. Fields is too far away, so we need a viable backup, a lefty that could platoon and take some of the right handers would be great. For all of the work that Crede has done his swing still looks very very long. I would love to see Crede hit about 260 but I think his brain is getting in the way of his natural ability. And btw for all those who dont want Mackowiak who is your pick for backup 3rd baseman, and if you say Burke you might as well just say no d'fence at the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 16, 2005 Author Share Posted March 16, 2005 (edited) Well with Hizzle My Shizzle Willie Harris showing he can play 2b, SS, and CF he can be the super utility guy. He is perfect for this job. Our main area of concern is 3b. Yes we can ship Uribe over, but this is a bandaid and not a solution. Fields is too far away, so we need a viable backup, a lefty that could platoon and take some of the right handers would be great. For all of the work that Crede has done his swing still looks very very long. I would love to see Crede hit about 260 but I think his brain is getting in the way of his natural ability. And btw for all those who dont want Mackowiak who is your pick for backup 3rd baseman, and if you say Burke you might as well just say no d'fence at the corner. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'd sooner send Willie and someone else over to the Pirates for Mackowiak. Willie could platoon with Jose Castillo at 2B since Castillo doesn't hit righties and Willie does. Right now, it's quite obvious that Crede is the main hole in our lineup. I know it's only Spring Training but Joe is looking like his 2004 version all over again. We need another 3rd baseman to platoon with him or at least to back him up. Pablo Ozuna could fill Willie's role AND he can backup SS. Edited March 16, 2005 by Jabroni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 I agree on Burke, in terms of him not being the answer as a backup 3B. Right now your backup 3B is the guy who wins the utility job, i.e. Ozuna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 16, 2005 Author Share Posted March 16, 2005 (edited) I agree on Burke, in terms of him not being the answer as a backup 3B. Right now your backup 3B is the guy who wins the utility job, i.e. Ozuna. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ozuna plays 2B and SS, not 3B. Wilson Valdez plays a little 3B. Since I expect Ozuna to make the roster, we still need a backup 3B. Edited March 16, 2005 by Jabroni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Mar 16, 2005 -> 05:35 PM) 1) I'd rather see him hitting 8th for the Sox than Crede. He also doesn't run like molasses on a cold day. So you'd like 28yo .246/.319/.420 in his most productive season over a 26 yo .239/.299/.418 in his least productive season, Paying more for him, and giving up a player? 2) Anyone is available for the right price. I seem to recall the Pirates wanting a power-hitting outfielder. Did you ever think that Littlefield just said that to make teams offer more for Mackowiak? Just how Kenny said that Willie could be out starting 2nd baseman? Don't be so naive. Naive to me would be coveting a player not for what he brings to the table(not much) but for where he grew up or who he rooted for as a kid. Naive to me would be starting a thread everyday updating the status of a guy who's never going to play for the Sox and is fighting for PT on a 90 loss team. Naive to me would be trading for ANOTHER lefty bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Ozuna plays 2B and SS, not 3B. Wilson Valdez plays a little 3B. Since I expect Ozuna to make the roster, we still need a backup 3B. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I watched Ozuna play 3B last week. He can play 3B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 The Sox would be better off hoping for a mild increase in Crede's production numbers than trading for a guy who should only be a platoon player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 16, 2005 Author Share Posted March 16, 2005 (edited) So you'd like 28yo .246/.319/.420 in his most productive season over a 26 yo .239/.299/.418 in his least productive season, Paying more for him, and giving up a player? Fine, let's look at career stats... Rob Mackowiak .252 career AVG .325 career OBP .423 career SLG Joe Crede .256 career AVG .304 career OBP .434 career SLG Neither is great but I would take Mackowiak's career .325 OBP and speed over Crede's .304 career OBP and base-clogging skills. Even better, I would like a Crede/Mackowiak righty/lefty platoon at 3B. And if we are paying Timo $1 million to be a 4th or 5th outfielder, what the hell is wrong with paying Mackowiak $1.5 million when he can backup Crede at 3B and play LF, RF, CF, 2B, and some 2B? He could also pinch-hit and pinch-run just like Timo but with more speed. Giving up some combination of Willie, Borchard, or Adkins would not be a huge loss to our team considering none of them may even make the opening day roster. Naive to me would be coveting a player not for what he brings to the table(not much) but for where he grew up or who he rooted for as a kid. Naive to me would be starting a thread everyday updating the status of a guy who's never going to play for the Sox and is fighting for PT on a 90 loss team. Naive to me would be trading for ANOTHER lefty bat. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's nice that Mackowiak grew up as a Sox fan from Oak Lawn, IL but I like him for his ability to play almost every position well and his base-running/base-stealing speed. Yes, I must control myself from starting a thread everyday on Rob Mackowiak's status. It must suck for you to have to see those threads everyday. By the way, Bobby Hill is fighting for playing time on the Pirates as well but I guess he must suck too. :rolly What is wrong with adding another lefty bat if it's just replacing Willie's? We would still have Carl Everett (when Frank is healthy) and Pablo Ozuna as our righty bats off the bench. I watched Ozuna play 3B last week. He can play 3B. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I haven't seen Ozuna play 3rd base yet. What game was it? Edited March 17, 2005 by Jabroni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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