JUGGERNAUT Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Did you guys know that suicide rates were so high with roid users? I knew there was a link from the WWE studies but I had no idea it was that high in withdrawal. I think the hearings are proving their worth now. I think when most of us think of roid users we think of greedy, cheaty players at whatever level they play. But the hearings are painting a different picture. This really is drug abuse that is associated with an addiction. Once you are juiced it's very hard to get un-juiced for some. Speaking of the WWE did any of you see that Real Sports special on HBO where McMahon was interviewed? The death rates & suicide rates of WWE stars in the Hogan era was alarming. I wonder if they are going to bring that up at these hearings. McMahon of course disavowed any responsibility for those deaths. One star that came to mind when I was a kid because he resembled something of a comic book character was the Ultimate Warrior. The guy never reached the age of 40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 For those just joining us... Get your pencils and scorecard ready Here is the line-up PANEL ONE Sen. Jim Bunning (R-Ky.) PANEL TWO Mr. Ray and Dr. Denise Garibaldi Mr. Donald Hooton Sr. Dr. Nora D. Volkow Dr. Gary I. Wadler Dr. Kirk Brower Dr. Eliot J. Pellman PANEL THREE Jose Canseco Mark McGwire Rafael Palmeiro Curt Schilling Sammy Sosa Frank Thomas PANEL FOUR Bud Selig Donald Fehr Sandy Alderson Kevin Towers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 And I just don't understand Pellman... if he's the medical advisor.. and he's stating this info, which I assume he's told MLB... why in the hell is the policy not stronger...?? Oh wait.. he's got a "but".... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 No Difference between the leadership of MLB and the NFL in releation to steriods... Did I just hear him say that?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Mar 17, 2005 -> 11:33 AM) Did you guys know that suicide rates were so high with roid users? I knew there was a link from the WWE studies but I had no idea it was that high in withdrawal. I think the hearings are proving their worth now. I think when most of us think of roid users we think of greedy, cheaty players at whatever level they play. But the hearings are painting a different picture. This really is drug abuse that is associated with an addiction. Once you are juiced it's very hard to get un-juiced for some. Speaking of the WWE did any of you see that Real Sports special on HBO where McMahon was interviewed? The death rates & suicide rates of WWE stars in the Hogan era was alarming. I wonder if they are going to bring that up at these hearings. McMahon of course disavowed any responsibility for those deaths. One star that came to mind when I was a kid because he resembled something of a comic book character was the Ultimate Warrior. The guy never reached the age of 40. Not disagreeing with your point, Jugg, but Jim Hellwig, aka The Ultimate Warrior, is very much alive. There was a wCw lookalike called the Renegade who killed himself, some say at least in part from steroid withdrawal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxfan56 Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 what a joke, so basically no one. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> how do u change the posts per page? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 QUOTE(Whitesoxfan56 @ Mar 17, 2005 -> 11:41 AM) how do u change the posts per page? Under my controls, it is the board settings option that has that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Mar 17, 2005 -> 11:33 AM) One star that came to mind when I was a kid because he resembled something of a comic book character was the Ultimate Warrior. The guy never reached the age of 40. He's not dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 I've not heard any one advocate yet that MLB needs to spend $ to produce tv spots to publicly condemn the use of illegal drugs. I think this would do more to help the cause then slowly strengthening the drug testing policy in MLB. This to me makes the best sense. A commitment to pay for & air such spots during every MLB telecast this year would hurt the pocket books of both the owners & players. Make the MLBPA & MLB produce their own spots with their own money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted March 17, 2005 Author Share Posted March 17, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Mar 17, 2005 -> 11:44 AM) He's not dead a lot of people think he is. your right. he is alive and well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 That guy that said that he got involved because his son wanted to take Andro.. because Mark took Andro... Mark must be so proud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxfan56 Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 how do u change the posts per page? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> thanks alot, this makes it easier now, i dont have to keep on clicking though 11 pages of posts thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Mar 17, 2005 -> 11:45 AM) I've not heard any one advocate yet that MLB needs to spend $ to produce tv spots to publicly condemn the use of illegal drugs. I think this would do more to help the cause then slowly strengthening the drug testing policy in MLB. This to me makes the best sense. A commitment to pay for & air such spots during every MLB telecast this year would hurt the pocket books of both the owners & players. Make the MLBPA & MLB produce their own spots with their own money. No. We need to get it out of the game. That's just window dressing on the problem. I would help, but not much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Yea, Ultimate Warrior (now just known as Warrior, officially changed his name), is alive and well, and also has a website. Ultimatewarrior.com -y2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 The Heat is turning up... MLB Medical Advisor on the defense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Mar 17, 2005 -> 11:48 AM) No. We need to get it out of the game. That's just window dressing on the problem. I would help, but not much. Agree. It's already known that it's not condoned.. at least they say so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Candice Miller (R-Detroit) just slapped the Detroit News in the face!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Rep Miller: She wasn't sure whether congress should get involved...but after hearing Parent's testimony: Yes, this is exactly what they should be doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Mar 17, 2005 -> 11:52 AM) Candice Miller (R-Detroit) just slapped the Detroit News in the face!! Big ol' backhand b**** (can I say that?) slap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Mar 17, 2005 -> 11:52 AM) Big ol' backhand b**** (can I say that?) slap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Not disagreeing with your point, Jugg, but Jim Hellwig, aka The Ultimate Warrior, is very much alive. There was a wCw lookalike called the Renegade who killed himself, some say at least in part from steroid withdrawal. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You guys are right: http://www.warriorcentral.net/tenaywarrior.html Search on steroids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Whitesoxfan56 @ Mar 17, 2005 -> 11:48 AM) thanks alot, this makes it easier now, i dont have to keep on clicking though 11 pages of posts thanks again. BTW, click the 'reply' button under the post you want to quote. Edited March 17, 2005 by Iwritecode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 QUOTE(rangercal @ Mar 17, 2005 -> 11:30 AM) I got 2 tvs and a computer going right now lol lol nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Mar 17, 2005 -> 11:54 AM) :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Mr. Hooten is being way more PC, and nice, than I would be... no way in hell that coach didn't know what was going on with that kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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