Jabroni Posted March 19, 2005 Author Share Posted March 19, 2005 (edited) If it happens it's a deal that makes sense for both teams. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yep. The Dodgers need a catcher badly and the Mets need another starting pitcher after losing Steve Trachsel to back surgery. I wonder if any other team out there needs a catcher now? Edited March 19, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 07:33 PM) If it happens it's a deal that makes sense for both teams. Thus ending the Piazza at 1B experiment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 19, 2005 Author Share Posted March 19, 2005 (edited) Thus ending the Piazza at 1B experiment? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's weird. The Mets already traded their other backup catcher Vance Wilson to the Tigers a month or so ago so they are only left with Mike Piazza and Mike Jacobs at catcher. I doubt Mike Jacobs is ready for the majors already but who knows... Maybe Ben Davis could be headed to the Mets now? Edited March 19, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 07:34 PM) Yep. The Dodgers need a catcher badly and the Mets need another starting pitcher after losing Steve Trachsel to back surgery. I wonder if any other team out there needs a catcher now? The Mets are doing everything they can to keep Ginter off the roster... Phillips hit .218/.298/.326 -- It's not like they are giving up a commodity. QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 07:41 PM) Thus ending the Piazza at 1B experiment? They announced as soon as last season was over that the experiment had ended. QUOTE(Jabroni @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 07:46 PM) It's weird. The Mets already traded their other backup catcher Vance Wilson to the Tigers a month or so ago so they are only left with Mike Piazza and Mike Jacobs at catcher. Jacobs isn't ready for the majors yet, either. I wonder if Ben Davis could be headed to the Mets now? I'm pretty sure the Mets have Ramon Castro in Camp... Phillips was actually fighting for a job at 1B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 19, 2005 Author Share Posted March 19, 2005 (edited) I'm pretty sure the Mets have Ramon Castro in Camp... Phillips was actually fighting for a job at 1B <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, they do have Ramon Castro in camp but he's pretty bad. With Piazza being unable to catch many games in his old age and Castro being horrible, I wonder if the Mets would be interested in Davis. Edited March 19, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Is there a reason that you're in such a hurry to get rid of Davis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 19, 2005 Author Share Posted March 19, 2005 (edited) Is there a reason that you're in such a hurry to get rid of Davis? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, but if there are rumors about us keeping Burke and dealing Davis is there anything wrong with discussing it? I like Burke because he can play some 3rd base. He's a bit more versatile than Davis. He's also been hitting really well in camp. That's good to see. Do you love Davis or something? Edited March 19, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 07:53 PM) Yeah, they do have Ramon Castro in camp but he's pretty bad. With Piazza being unable to catch many games in his old age and Castro being horrible, I wonder if the Mets would be interested in Davis. Who said piazza can't catch many games anymore? He may suck at it but if they want him to hit well he will catch 100 games at the very least if not 120. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 07:26 PM) Davis is getting paid $1M to be a #2 catcher. I have no problem with that. Hell, look at what the idiots from the Northside paid their backup catcher. Four big ones. We have one of the better catching tandums in the AL, why mess it up? I laughed at what is in bold. Henry Blanco: signed 2-year deal worth 2.7M thru 2006 season on 12/7/04- + he can earn a bonus for winning the Silver Slugger. Agent: Steve Schneider Edited March 19, 2005 by qwerty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 11:10 PM) I laughed at what is in bold. Dude...why laugh? Blanco = teh l33t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 19, 2005 Author Share Posted March 19, 2005 Who said piazza can't catch many games anymore? He may suck at it but if they want him to hit well he will catch 100 games at the very least if not 120. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, let's see... 1.) 36 year old knees. 2.) Horrible throwing arm. There's a reason they wanted to convert him to a first baseman last season. The problem is that he was even worse at first base than he was at catcher. Hence, putting him back at catcher this season. The guy is just begging to be a DH in the A.L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Mar 19, 2005 -> 03:55 AM) Well, let's see... 1.) 36 year old knees. 2.) Horrible throwing arm. There's a reason they wanted to convert him to a first baseman last season. The problem is that he was even worse at first base than he was at catcher. Hence, putting him back at catcher this season. The guy is just begging to be a DH in the A.L. He has asked to move back to catcher to i believe. He believes the move the first base to is the reason for his decline in offensive production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 19, 2005 Author Share Posted March 19, 2005 (edited) Who said piazza can't catch many games anymore? He may suck at it but if they want him to hit well he will catch 100 games at the very least if not 120. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He has asked to move back to catcher to i believe. He believes the move the first base to is the reason for his decline in offensive production. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Superstition. I hope Podsednik doesn't suck because we moved him from CF to LF. Just because Piazza sits behind the plate for 100 to 120 games doesn't mean that he even belongs there or that he's catching a good game. Piazza is a glorified DH sitting behind the plate -- no arm, no speed, no defense. He's only behind the dish because he can't even play 1B and he's in the N.L. If Piazza was playing in the A.L. he would be a DH. Edited March 19, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly8509CWS Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Mar 19, 2005 -> 04:09 AM) Just because Piazza sits behind the plate for 100 to 120 games doesn't mean that he even belongs there or that he's catching a good game. Piazza is a glorified DH sitting behind the plate -- no arm, no speed, no defense. He's only behind the dish because he can't even play 1B and he's in the N.L. If Piazza was playing in the A.L. he would be a DH. Very VERY TRUE. Piazza poor defensively, poor speed, and has an awful arm he is no doubt a DH... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 QUOTE(Pauly8509CWS @ Mar 19, 2005 -> 09:34 AM) Very VERY TRUE. Piazza poor defensively, poor speed, and has an awful arm he is no doubt a DH... Piazza has never been a good catcher, just a good hitter. Now that he's getting old, his catching skills are almost nonexistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 25, 2005 Author Share Posted March 25, 2005 The Mets are looking for a backup catcher for Piazza now that they have traded Jason Phillips to the Dodgers. Ben Davis? http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...ort=MLB&id=5228 Latest News Mar. 25, 2005 - 8:05 am et The Mets have sent a scout to look at Colorado catcher Charles Johnson. Johnson was supposed to catch late in yesterday's game against Arizona, but it was called in the sixth inning because of an invasion of bees. (Yes, you read that correctly.) ''It's definitely encouraging to see the possibility that I might go somewhere,'' Johnson said. ''We'll have to wait and see.'' Source: Rocky Mountain News Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 sounds good to me, we have no need for Davis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 Charles Johnson >>>> Ben Davis. Why would they want Davis when they can afford CJ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 25, 2005 Author Share Posted March 25, 2005 (edited) Charles Johnson >>>> Ben Davis. Why would they want Davis when they can afford CJ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The Mets would have to give up a good prospect to get the Rockies to pay most of Johnson's $9 million contract. They could send us a lesser prospect for Davis. Edited March 25, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 I'd rather have the catching depth. You guys are in a big rush to trade Davis, there is a reason why Widger was out of baseball last year and Burke is a good depth guy. Again, if Pierzynski goes down and the White Sox are looking at either Chris Widger or Jamie Burke as the #1 guy, we are in trouble. I think some on this board look at 1/2 year and make overall judgements on players ... i.e. Davis and Burke the last half of 2004. It's not like the White Sox have a hot catching prospect that's only a year or two away. Remember the Sox only have Pierzynski under control for two years. The Sox finally have some good depth at catching and this board immediately wants to trade it away ... not sure how much sense that makes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Mar 25, 2005 -> 03:55 PM) Again, if Pierzynski goes down and the White Sox are looking at either Chris Widger or Jamie Burke as the #1 guy, we are in trouble. So if pierz gets hurt and we are stuck with davis/widger or davis/burke we are better off than widger burke? I disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 So if pierz gets hurt and we are stuck with davis/widger or davis/burke we are better off than widger burke? I disagree. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thing is, Davis is one hell of a lot more proven as a major league catcher than Burke is. Burke is a perfect 25th man. Me, I'd rather keep an experienced 28 year old catcher vs. two guys who have been around for a long time, play an in demand position, yet only can get non roster invites. I think there's a reason for that. They have catching depth (finally), so many on this board are looking to deplete it. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Again, some of you guys are way too influenced by 1/2 of a season. PS - I like Burke a lot. And Widger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Mar 25, 2005 -> 04:13 PM) Thing is, Davis is one hell of a lot more proven as a major league catcher than Burke is. Burke is a perfect 25th man. Me, I'd rather keep an experienced 28 year old catcher vs. two guys who have been around for a long time, play an in demand position, yet only can get non roster invites. I think there's a reason for that. They have catching depth (finally), so many on this board are looking to deplete it. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Again, some of you guys are way too influenced by 1/2 of a season. PS - I like Burke a lot. And Widger. No, i am not going by what burke has done in the majors at all. That would be retarded to do so. I think he is more like a .250-.27- hitter in the majors. I am not for trading davis but i can see he sucks. With him it will always be about that ''potential'' or lack there of... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 No, i am not going by what burke has done in the majors at all. That would be retarded to do so. I think he is more like a .250-.27- hitter in the majors. I am not for trading davis but i can see he sucks. With him it will always be about that ''potential'' or lack there of... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> With Davis, it's time to perform. At times last year, he did. With Pierzynski in there now, I'm looking more at defense and I watched Davis handle things pretty well defensively, even when his batting went bad. I saw Burke muff too many balls, and saw another bad passed ball by him the other day. I like him as a fill in guy and a depth guy but not as the backup catcher. But that's just me. Widger has shown well but I do think there's a reason he could only land a non roster invite with the White Sox, it's not as if the Sox didn't already have three guys on the depth chart ahead of him. But anyways ... I'm sure they are looking at the situation closely. If there is a trade from catching, it all depends what they get in return. I'm not against trading anyone if they get a good return. If some team is desperate for catching, maybe they will over pay. All this will be settled in the next 10 days if not sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 OK, they are talking about the catching situation right now. Davis got an at bat in the 8th inning, they were commenting how both Burke and Widger have been getting a lot of playing time. DJ and Hawk talking about Pierzynski and Davis being set with this team, that the Sox are trying to make a decision about Burke and Widger. DJ saying these two are both non-roster guys who are battling for the last spot. Interesting. Of course this does not mean these two announcers know everything, but this might mean they are looking to carry a 3rd catcher, at least until Frank Thomas comes back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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