DBAHO Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Since I didn't see a thread anywhere on yesterday's B game, I'd thought I'd post it; Contreras has been shaky this spring, going 0-1 with an 8.31 ERA in 3 Cactus League outings. He was much better in the "B'' game, pitching 5 innings and allowing 1 run on 4 hits to go along with 3 walks and 7 strikeouts. Working exclusively out of the stretch for 2 full innings, Contreras still must prove he can perform when runners are on base. He is the White Sox' No. 3 starter until further notice, but Contreras has to start pitching up to his potential. If not, 21-year-old whiz kid Brandon McCarthy is ready to take his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Does anyone know if there is a place to get information on the B games? Is there a stat page or a box score spot for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted March 18, 2005 Author Share Posted March 18, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 19, 2005 -> 01:17 AM) Does anyone know if there is a place to get information on the B games? Is there a stat page or a box score spot for them? I couldn't find them anywhere actually, although I didn't really look too hard besides the usual places (yahoo). In the small game report, in the Daily Herald or Sun - Times, it said Adkins got hit hard, both on the scoreboard and on a comebacker on his hand from Antoin Grey. He's ok though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 that is what is so frustrating about Contreras. Sometimes he looks really good and some times he looks just ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 That the Sox have seen Contreras do something differently while pitching from the stretch, bodes well for Jose getting his act together. If he pitched like s*** when no one was on, and when runners were on base, then I'd be worried. It sounds like the Sox have found something to work on w/ Contreras to help him get out of jams. I'd be interested in seeing what his stats have been w/ runners on and w/o anyone on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 09:59 AM) that is what is so frustrating about Contreras. Sometimes he looks really good and some times he looks HORRIBLE . I think that's more appropriate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Contreras' splits: 2004: none on--.239/.309/.440 runners on--.276/.391/.453 2003: none on---.189/.286/.297 runners on--.220/.312/.303 I didn't know how well Conteras pitched in 2003. He had some great, el Duque type numbers. In 71 ip, 52 h, 30 BB's, 72 k's, only 4 hr's allowed, 7-2 with a 3.30 ERA. He also had a 1.71 GB/ FB ratio. When he pitched in NY the first half of 04, the rate was way down near 1.0. If Contreras can get back to inducing GB's, he should help the sox a lot. Maybe he's not so far off than a lot of people think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Check this out Beck, 2004: Bases Empty: 2.54 ERA, 1.32 WHIP, .239 BA Runners on: 9.98 ERA, 1.68 WHIP, .276 BA I can't recall seeing any other pitchers with stats like that. http://bigleaguers.yahoo.com/mlbpa/players/7043/situational Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 04:38 PM) Check this out Beck, 2004: Bases Empty: 2.54 ERA, 1.32 WHIP, .239 BA Runners on: 9.98 ERA, 1.68 WHIP, .276 BA I can't recall seeing any other pitchers with stats like that. http://bigleaguers.yahoo.com/mlbpa/players/7043/situational He certainly had a problem w/ runners on in 04. Yet in 2003 his splits were pretty even. I'm thinking his "problems" aren't nearly as bad as most of us probably think they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 10:38 AM) Check this out Beck, 2004: Bases Empty: 2.54 ERA, 1.32 WHIP, .239 BA Runners on: 9.98 ERA, 1.68 WHIP, .276 BA I can't recall seeing any other pitchers with stats like that. http://bigleaguers.yahoo.com/mlbpa/players/7043/situational (refering to your avatar) Ahhh hahahahahaha... it works on so many levels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 10:38 AM) Check this out Beck, 2004: Bases Empty: 2.54 ERA, 1.32 WHIP, .239 BA Runners on: 9.98 ERA, 1.68 WHIP, .276 BA I can't recall seeing any other pitchers with stats like that. http://bigleaguers.yahoo.com/mlbpa/players/7043/situational The ERA part of that number is worthless. Of course guys are going to give up more runs with runners on. The solo HR is the only way someone can score with the bases empty. But I will agree that the WHIP and BAA are scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 11:31 AM) The ERA part of that number is worthless. Of course guys are going to give up more runs with runners on. The solo HR is the only way someone can score with the bases empty. But I will agree that the WHIP and BAA are scary. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah I thought about that as soon as I posted it, but Contreras did give up twice as many homers when the bases empty than with runners on. I should've listed the HR numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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