DBAHO Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 There's always some other alternatives out there from some other teams like Hideo Nomo who's probably not going to make the Devil Rays rotation or Ryan Franklin from the Mariners who may not either. Not saying it's a better situation than having B-Mac starting, just saying KW may try to cover all of his bases first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider17 Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 08:45 AM) No offense to you Brandon.. but this is a mistake IMO. I hope you're wrong Steph, but I think you may be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 from what it sounded like on the radio he he will for sure miss opening day and maybe another start or two. I mean thats not good, but it could be alot worse. i'd like to know more but its hard to pull anyone away from college basketball and there "brackets". I should start i hate college basketball thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(quickman @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 01:51 AM) Don't be so quick, they have days off the first two weeks, they would actually be working on five days rest. now think about it. Still, the Sox want El Duque as fresh as possible in August and September, and having a 4 man rotation wouldn't help this, even though they'd have some off days. Also if you have a 4 man rotation, how many pitchers do you carry? Do you give someone like Cotts the emergency 5th starter role if B-Mac isn't called up. How about the bench situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider17 Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(quickman @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 08:51 AM) Don't be so quick, they have days off the first two weeks, they would actually be working on five days rest. now think about it. That may be the smartest thing to do, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(quickman @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 08:51 AM) Don't be so quick, they have days off the first two weeks, they would actually be working on five days rest. now think about it. They play 4/6 to 4/11, off on the 12, then 4/13 to 4/27 before another day off on 4/28. Where the hell do you get 5 days rest in there...??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 better to be conservative with Buehrle. trying to pitch with foot or leg problems can often lead to shoulder problems. Buehrle is too valuable to rush at any point. I hope they let him heal properly, get in his rehab and then bring him north in mid to late May. as for the fifth starter, i'm not convinced BMac is the right choice. Damn, the kid started last season in Low A ball. He's barely spent any time in AA. Garland was lights out in the minors, too. It ain't as easy when the real red light comes on. Rather see the kid pitch in Charlotte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox91403 Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 I just heard on The Score that it was ligaments in his toe and he is being shut down for a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted March 21, 2005 Author Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 02:55 PM) Still, the Sox want El Duque as fresh as possible in August and September, and having a 4 man rotation wouldn't help this, even though they'd have some off days. Also if you have a 4 man rotation, how many pitchers do you carry? Do you give someone like Cotts the emergency 5th starter role if B-Mac isn't called up. How about the bench situation? not sure I understand, they would be pitching every 5th day just like they would if they had 5 starters. they would not need a fifth starter until April 18th. i am not saying thats what they will do, but its an option. in essence the fifth starter would only make two starts until beurhle gets back. Which would be the end of april. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider17 Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(quickman @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 08:51 AM) Don't be so quick, they have days off the first two weeks, they would actually be working on five days rest. now think about it. QUOTE(southsider17 @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 08:55 AM) That may be the smartest thing to do, IMO. QUOTE(Steff @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 08:55 AM) They play 4/6 to 4/11, off on the 12, then 4/13 to 4/27 before another day off on 4/28. Where the hell do you get 5 days rest in there...??? ..... or not. Edited March 21, 2005 by southsider17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxrd5 Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 08:55 AM) They play 4/6 to 4/11, off on the 12, then 4/13 to 4/27 before another day off on 4/28. Where the hell do you get 5 days rest in there...??? IMO, there is no concievable way we will go with a four man rotation when our biggest innings eater (245 last year) is injured...I dont care if we play five days a week every week for the entire month of April. You dont want to burn out El Duque in the first month of the year when he hasnt pitched a full season since 2001. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 It's actually his arm, Hilarious. Why don't we freeze this thread until we know the truth? If there are conflicting reports from the media, it means no one knows for sure yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(whitesox91403 @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 08:58 AM) I just heard on The Score that it was ligaments in his toe and he is being shut down for a few days. So now he's only out a few days? What is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted March 21, 2005 Author Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 02:55 PM) They play 4/6 to 4/11, off on the 12, then 4/13 to 4/27 before another day off on 4/28. Where the hell do you get 5 days rest in there...??? Steff they would not need a fifth starter until the 18th. they are off on the fifth and the 12th. they can go with a four man rotation on five days rest until the 18th. thats where I get it from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxrd5 @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 08:59 AM) IMO, there is no concievable way we will go with a four man rotation when our biggest innings eater (245 last year) is injured...I dont care if we play five days a week every week for the entire month of April. You dont want to burn out El Duque in the first month of the year when he hasnt pitched a full season since 2001. Of course there isn't... IMO also, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(3E8 @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 09:00 AM) So now he's only out a few days? What is this? Nobody knows anything for sure yet. Everyone is rushing to judgement it sounds like to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted March 21, 2005 Author Share Posted March 21, 2005 I still don't see the probelm here, I said it was an option, the other is BMAC, the other is Diaz, the other is a trade. they are all options. I am certain they will be looking at all of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox91403 Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(3E8 @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 09:00 AM) So now he's only out a few days? What is this? Honest to god, Fred Huebner said that offman was reporting he inuured his toe shagging flyballs and would be shut down for a few days because he tore ligaments in his big toe. I didn't think much of it until I saw the Buehrle breaks foot title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(quickman @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 02:01 AM) Steff they would not need a fifth starter until the 18th. they are off on the fifth and the 12th. they can go with a four man rotation on five days rest until the 18th. thats where I get it from. What about the 11th? Wouldn't the #1 starter in Garcia be going off 3 days rest? And also, Buerhle's not going to just come straight back into the rotation when he's healthy. He's going to have to throw some innings down at the minors to iron out the kinks first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxrd5 Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 09:02 AM) Nobody knows anything for sure yet. Everyone is rushing to judgement it sounds like to me. Hmm...didnt I just say that, OH WAIT 50 POSTS AGO??? I was quickly rebutted, saying the facts are already known.... :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted March 21, 2005 Author Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 03:04 PM) What about the 11th? Wouldn't the #1 starter in Garcia be going off 3 days rest? And also, Buerhle's not going to just come straight back into the rotation when he's healthy. He's going to have to throw some innings down at the minors to iron out the kinks first. garcia ptiches on the 4th, then pitches on the 9th (5 days later) then ptiches on the 14th. (5days later0 Please help me understand why this math doesn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(quickman @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 09:01 AM) Steff they would not need a fifth starter until the 18th. they are off on the fifth and the 12th. they can go with a four man rotation on five days rest until the 18th. thats where I get it from. That's some interesting math you have there. There are 6 games without a day off from the 6th to the 11th... who's going to pitch on day 5 with a minimum of 4 days rest..? And might be a good idea to at least consider factoring in the weather.. maybe a rain delay here and there.. etc... Still logical to you to go with a 4 man..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxrd5 @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 03:04 PM) Hmm...didnt I just say that, OH WAIT 50 POSTS AGO??? I was quickly rebutted, saying the facts are already known.... :rolly LOL, people were even offended that the 'facts 'were challenged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 There's always some other alternatives out there from some other teams like Hideo Nomo who's probably not going to make the Devil Rays rotation or Ryan Franklin from the Mariners who may not either. Not saying it's a better situation than having B-Mac starting, just saying KW may try to cover all of his bases first. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agree with this 100%. Just as you state, not saying this will happen or it's definitely a better situation, but the Sox brass will look at all alternatives. It's likely some names will be available here in the next 10 days. The only thing remotely positive about this Buehrle situation is hopefully he'll be strong and refreshed down the stretch. Sox may go with a 4 man for the first 2-3 weeks and carry another bullpen arm. Again, just speculating here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxrd5 @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 09:04 AM) Hmm...didnt I just say that, OH WAIT 50 POSTS AGO??? I was quickly rebutted, saying the facts are already known.... :rolly Let it go.. it's not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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