retro1983hat Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(thomsonmi @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 10:02 AM) There's no way to spin this. This is bad f'n news. Buerhle is the man on our staff. s***! Exactly!!!! We have to hope to stay about .500 until June 1 when he should be back to form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Well, if our pitching is truly as deep as they claim it is, we should be able to hold our own until Mark returns, and at that point, it would put us over the top and we can go on a surge... Freddie, Contreras, Duque, Garland and (hopefully) Bmac need to step it up while Big Hurt and Mark are MIA...and when both return, it will boost the team huge. If it's only a hairline fracture, he could be back in 4 weeks, +2 for getting into game shape, so we are looking at May 1st or thereabouts...that is only about 4 starts...so for what it's worth, although it sucks, we cannot just give up on the season because one or two players go down...this team needs to rise above that type of adversity if we plan on going anywhere. QUOTE(retro1983hat @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 10:04 AM) Exactly!!!! We have to hope to stay about .500 until June 1 when he should be back to form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 (edited) Exactly!!!! We have to hope to stay about .500 until June 1 when he should be back to form. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not June! May. At least it will only affect April. Apr 4,off,6,7: vs CLE Garcia, Hernandez, BMac vs Westbrook, Milwood, Lee We can win this series. Apr 8, 9, 10 @ MIN: Garland, Garcia, Hernandez vs Lohse,Santana,Radke Should scrape out a win. Apr 11,12,13, off @ CLE: BMac, Garland, Contreras vs Sabathia, Lee, Davis Should scrape out a win. Apr 15,16,17 vs SEA: Garcia, Hernandez, BMac vs ?,?,? We can win this series. Apr 18,19 v MIN: Garland, Contreras vs Lohse,Santana We'll be swept. Apr 20,21 @ DET: Garcia, Hernandez vs ?,? We can win this series. Apr 22,23,24 @ KCR: BMac, Garland, Contreras vs ?,?,? We can win this series. Apr 25,26,27,off @ OAK: Garcia, Hernandez, BMac vs ?,?,? We can win this series. Apr 29,30, May 1 vs DET: Garland, Garcia, Buehrle vs ?,?,? We can win this series. It's not as bad as some of you think. Assuming BMac doesn't suffer the curse of rookie starter for the ChiSox Edited March 21, 2005 by JUGGERNAUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballNick Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 I have an alternative to B-Mac coming up. Hermanson comes in as the emergency 5th starter for 6 weeks (his versatility is part of the reason we signed him, is it not?) Now Kevin Walker can take the vacant spot in the pen bc he's been tearing it up in ST. I think calling up B-Mac is our best move, but but for all of those who dont think he's ready just yet the Hermanson Walker thing might be a nice alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 So are we positive BMac will be the in the rotation. I would assume so like everyone else, I just don't want to see Cotts get the call for it. This news has really putten a damper on my day already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(quickman @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 09:43 AM) let me be clear, The Man = Kenny williams. He said Fracture out 4-6 weeks. his words not mine. When he is out four to six weeks, then come back to thread. I know. Once I heard it from kw's mouth I knew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 This is such a bad news. But our other starters better step it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Worst case scenario: Mark isn't back till' May, struggles to return to form, doesn't get completely healthly and in the swing of things until June. In an attempt to plug the hole in the rotation, the Sox bring up McCarthy who gets bombed in the MLB and struggles with confidence after that. Sox get off to a slow start and have to play catch-up. Best case scenario: Um...I'll get back to you later. This is bad, f'ing news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Best Case Scenario: BMac shines and becomes our #3 when Buehrle comes back and our 1-3 is phenomenal. This could be a blessing in disguise if BMac comes up and makes it impossible to send him back down when Mark comes back. Wishing the best for both Mark and Brandon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 If you see me near a high building, call for help. THis is terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 10:22 AM) Worst case scenario: Mark isn't back till' May, struggles to return to form, doesn't get completely healthly and in the swing of things until June. In an attempt to plug the hole in the rotation, the Sox bring up McCarthy who gets bombed in the MLB and struggles with confidence after that. Sox get off to a slow start and have to play catch-up. Best case scenario: Um...I'll get back to you later. This is bad, f'ing news. Best case scenario is that he heals quickly and BMac pitches well in between that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yossarian Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 This sounds serious and I don't care if it's June or July, give MB all the time he needs. With a tender foot you can alter your throwing motion and then wreck your arm, like what happened to Dizzy Dean a long time ago. This news sucks and that's the only way to put it. I don't expect young B Mac to come in and be Rookie of the Year, although it would be nice if he could. He probably needs another year or so in the minors. Lights out in spring training isn't the same as lights out when the games really count. This is very discouraging. I'd say if I had to pick one player the Sox could least afford to lose it would be Mark Buerhle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 The problem isn't McCarthy being slotted into the #5 spot, it's that we have Garland and Contreras still in the rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 So are we positive BMac will be the in the rotation. I would assume so like everyone else, I just don't want to see Cotts get the call for it. This news has really putten a damper on my day already. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ESPN radio said they we're already leaning in that direction because Contreras looks pretty bad. BMac's a lock now. Assuming he finishes ST strong he's probably our #3. The plus side: BMac in rotation. If he can get through April with a winning record, we will be all the stronger for it. Jon & Jose have got to see the writing on the wall now. If BMac gets it done one of them is not likely to remain on the team when Mark returns. They are competing against each other to stay in the rotation. Garland has substantially more trade value than Contreras because of his price tag. But the best case for the ChiSox would be to trade Contreras. I hope Kenny gives BMac a chance & doesn't lose his cool & overpay greatly to acquire another accomplished starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 BMac should start game 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Yahoo Sports Official, Bmac gets the slot. All things considered, could be a blessing in disguise. If Bmac dominates, we could be looking at something special in the making, with 5 solid starters and a fallback in Conteras. -y2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Yahoo Sports Official, Bmac gets the slot. All things considered, could be a blessing in disguise. If Bmac dominates, we could be looking at something special in the making, with 5 solid starters and a fallback in Conteras. -y2 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'll wait & see what Ozzie says but I'd be surprised if BMac is the 5th. They were already leaning towards BMac in the rotation because Contreras looks confused. It wouldn't make sense to give Contreras the extra start or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(El Piervizdyeguchansodnik @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 10:28 AM) Best Case Scenario: BMac shines and becomes our #3 when Buehrle comes back and our 1-3 is phenomenal. This could be a blessing in disguise if BMac comes up and makes it impossible to send him back down when Mark comes back. This is what I'm praying for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 (edited) I would like to nominate this for the worst thread of the year. Just a thought on rotation. Why not pitch B-Mac in the first series? Give him the #3 spot. He's the hottest arm we have. I hope this Oh s*** moment doesn't cause him to start thinking and tinkering. He needs to keep is 20 year old head on straight. I'm drinking the koolaid and think Dontrell time He needs to practice this phrase I never wanted to make the team this way. I hope Mark returns quickly and completely. Until then I just want to help the team and pitch well when they hand me the ball. Edited March 21, 2005 by Texsox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 10:31 AM) ESPN radio said they we're already leaning in that direction because Contreras looks pretty bad. BMac's a lock now. Assuming he finishes ST strong he's probably our #3. The plus side: BMac in rotation. If he can get through April with a winning record, we will be all the stronger for it. Jon & Jose have got to see the writing on the wall now. If BMac gets it done one of them is not likely to remain on the team when Mark returns. They are competing against each other to stay in the rotation. Garland has substantially more trade value than Contreras because of his price tag. But the best case for the ChiSox would be to trade Contreras. I hope Kenny gives BMac a chance & doesn't lose his cool & overpay greatly to acquire another accomplished starter. OK, that's good to hear for BMac. If there is a positive in this, it's going to be seeing him pitch in the regular season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Since it looks like Buehrle will definitely miss all of April, I'm happy they didn't trot out the lame "we'll just go with a 4 man rotation" line. They should still pick somebody up (a starter) who's willing to pitch at AAA, you can never have enough depth and freak injuries prove it. In about 10 days, there will be some guys available. If any of Garcia-Contreras-Garland-Hernandez-BMac have problems they'll need a guy. Sox are deep in bullpen fill ins but not starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 10:31 AM) f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** What he said... :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 10:42 AM) Since it looks like Buehrle will definitely miss all of April, I'm happy they didn't trot out the lame "we'll just go with a 4 man rotation" line. They should still pick somebody up (a starter) who's willing to pitch at AAA, you can never have enough depth and freak injuries prove it. In about 10 days, there will be some guys available. If any of Garcia-Contreras-Garland-Hernandez-BMac have problems they'll need a guy. Sox are deep in bullpen fill ins but not starters. Another route is stretching Cotts out. We still have a couple starters that have shown AAA flash in the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 We should bring Kevin Walker up and put Cotts in AAA to stretch out his arm for starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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