DBAHO Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 From the Cubune; And then there's the most obvious and natural choice, Scott Skiles. What, you say he already has a job as Bulls coach? And might even be coach of the year? Skiles remains the most popular player in Magic history, annually winning the fan vote when Shaquille O'Neal and Penny Hardaway were there. Magic insiders admit they erred when they had a chance to hire Skiles before the Bulls did and hesitated. The Magic has talented players, but its defense ranks among the league's poorest. And the record is starting to suggest nobody does defense better than Skiles. In Skiles' first full season as the Suns' coach, they recorded their best-ever defensive field-goal percentage. The Bulls now are on pace to have their best-ever field-goal defense. This is probably not a coincidence. For next season, the Bulls hold an option on Skiles that has not been exercised yet. There's no reason to believe the option won't be exercised--and with an extension. But what if the Magic offered their first-round draft pick as compensation for Skiles? The Magic has a glut of young players. The Bulls don't have many ways to get better quickly with no salary-cap room after this season and no first-round pick because of the Luol Deng deal. There are a number of good shooting guards and solid power forwards in this draft. The Bulls could use help at both positions. So how much is a coach really worth? Many will say perhaps five games over a season. But what is a young, potential starter worth? Skiles is establishing a reputation as a Larry Brown-esque turnaround coach: You hire him and your team gets better. But those types of demanding coaches usually don't last long. They burn out the players with their urgent style. Few expect Brown to return to Detroit after this season, his second. The Bulls figure to bet on Skiles blending with his current group. But what if a team like Orlando does make such an offer. Is it too good to refuse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 I think Pax will lock scotty up long term after the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Scotty couldn't buy a coaching job before Pax hired him. I think they'll be a team as long as the team is progressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 The Bulls don't have many ways to get better quickly with no salary-cap room after this season and no first-round pick because of the Luol Deng deal Well, seeing as how we have 4 ROOKIES in our 7-man rotation, I find this quote rather amusing. Very few ways to get better quickly, LOL? Are these guys peaking now? Also, no salary cap room? We're not keeping Curry, correct? Bulls Salaries It seems to me that all we need is a Raja Bell/Trenton Hassell type defensive SG/SF and one Samuel Dalembert. And god damn it, keep Skiles at all costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Bahaha. Sam Smith keeps getting dumber. First off, Skiles was Paxsons guy. No one else was even considering him for any NBA jobs and then Pax came a calling. Secondly, the Bulls aren't gonna get rid of Skiles. Him and Pax mesh, there ideas of where this team is and where it should go are pretty much one and one. Thats a positive relationship and its going nowhere anytime soon, imo. Lastly, no one is dealing a draft pick for a coach. This isn't Bill Parcels were talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 I'm not a Bulls fan, so it's easier for me to believe that he would return back to Orlando. I think he's a good coach and I'll like him wherever he coaches next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 02:20 PM) Also, no salary cap room? We're not keeping Curry, correct? You and me both can hope. But i can see the bulls being fools and keeping him for whatever f***ing reason. He has probally been and as many if not more rumors than vince carter since he came in the league. Every other day there is a new rumor about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 wow that would be awesome to get a 1st rounder for Skiles. He like said in the article isnt the type of Coach that will last especially in todays NBA... now that he helped us id like us to get a better floor coach... a guy who can manage a game better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 07:51 PM) wow that would be awesome to get a 1st rounder for Skiles. He like said in the article isnt the type of Coach that will last especially in todays NBA... now that he helped us id like us to get a better floor coach... a guy who can manage a game better. He sucks becausehe takes players out when they are doing bad and has some of the best rotations in the league. Fire him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 he sucks because after a year or two the players are going to have had enough of him and just stop listening. Also his little battle with EC is beyond stupid. If he wants to be such a hard ass it would be nice instead of spending it all on Curry(who does deserve some of it) but he has Hinrich fire away. Id like to see him call out Hinrich just once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 That's because Hinrich busts his f***ing ass every night, Eddy Curry couldnt hold that claim for a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 yeah Hinrich busts his ass but hit shot selection needs to improve. At times on offense its like Crawford is still on the team, except Crawford is better offensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 07:56 PM) he sucks because after a year or two the players are going to have had enough of him and just stop listening. Also his little battle with EC is beyond stupid. If he wants to be such a hard ass it would be nice instead of spending it all on Curry(who does deserve some of it) but he has Hinrich fire away. Id like to see him call out Hinrich just once They do not listen to the coach who is a damn good old school coach who takes no s*** from his players like it should be. Cut them or trade them i do not care. Curry deserves all the criticism he gets from the fans, management, skiles and some. If you have not noticed hinrich= captain and tried his hardest and is always in shape unlike someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Does his shot selection have anything to do with busting your ass??? The reason Hinrich doesn't get called out is cuz he leaves every damn thing he has on the floor. Oh, and he plays defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 08:00 PM) yeah Hinrich busts his ass but hit shot selection needs to improve. At times on offense its like Crawford is still on the team, except Crawford is better offensively. Crawford is better offensively...? Please explain why. The defense is also not comparable even though crawford is not that bad of defender. Who is the better passer and floor leader out of the two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 please.... was there ever a question who the better offensive player of the two were between Crawford and Hinrich . Im not arguining the fact that Hinrich is clearly a much better defender and passer than Crawford but he shoots way 2 much at times and he misses a lot more than he should for shooting so much. Id just like to see him take that extra pass at times or when we are on the run instead of stopping and shooting a jumper set up the offense or if Gordon is in let him take the jumper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Do you pass on offense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 08:06 PM) please.... was there ever a question who the better offensive player of the two were between Crawford and Hinrich . Im not arguining the fact that Hinrich is clearly a much better defender and passer than Crawford but he shoots way 2 much at times and he misses a lot more than he should for shooting so much. Id just like to see him take that extra pass at times or when we are on the run instead of stopping and shooting a jumper set up the offense or if Gordon is in let him take the jumper. Show me the stats then if crawford is so superior. Because if you do you will find some interesting things. Edited March 22, 2005 by qwerty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 05:58 PM) That's because Hinrich busts his f***ing ass every night, Eddy Curry couldnt hold that claim for a week. Even when Hinrich shoots like s***, he's an asset to the club because of his defense. He's one of the best perimeter defenders in the league and is a very smart passer. Hinrich is the shiznit. Curry when not scoring doesn't offer much at this point. The key will be for him to just slowly get better. However, he is the lone low post scorer at this point. I don't know how much he'll get, but I do think Atlanta would be interested and Harrington would definately make some sense. I also think Paxson would like a pick somehow as a role player. I could see him drafting a big man at one point or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 06:01 PM) Crawford is better offensively...? Please explain why. The defense is also not comparable even though crawford is not that bad of defender. Who is the better passer and floor leader out of the two? Good lord, two players I never ever thought would be compared...Hinrich and Crawford. Crawford = ROYAL PIECE OF s***. If you were going to compare two players it would be Crawford and Curry because both are scorers and nothing more. Curry is a superior scorer though, imo, plus he's a center which is a premium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Yeah, I'm not questioning Eddy's importance as a post scorer. I was just pointing out why Skiles doesn't rip Kirk, and why he DOES rip Curry. It's really pretty blatant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Oh no, I was just agreeing with you and then going on a tangent. We all know that Hinrich is my favorite player on the Bulls too. I love him, Chandler, Noc, and Deng. They all put in 100% effort. Gordon is fun to watch but not one of my favs. If you notice all the guys I like flat out play defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 yes Hinrich hustles but i still dont see how that makes it ok for his poor shot selection. So your saying if Crawford hustled more and shot it 50 times making only 10 it would be ok because he hustled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 08:10 PM) Oh no, I was just agreeing with you and then going on a tangent. We all know that Hinrich is my favorite player on the Bulls too. I love him, Chandler, Noc, and Deng. They all put in 100% effort. Gordon is fun to watch but not one of my favs. If you notice all the guys I like flat out play defense. Curry defense has m4d sk1llz on defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Well you did a nice job of jumping that shot total up to 50... Kirk's shot selection isn't nearly that bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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