GoodAsGould Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 well if you have your wish.... and les say we trade Curry to atlanta for their 1st rounder... and resign Chandler i hope. What would you do this offseason to not only find a low post scorer but find a guy who can shoot more and Hinrich shoot less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Aye, Hinrich will not be a problem. If we trade Curry for ATL's 1st we can draft Bogut. I would wet myself at that chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted March 22, 2005 Author Share Posted March 22, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 01:37 PM) well if you have your wish.... and les say we trade Curry to atlanta for their 1st rounder... and resign Chandler i hope. What would you do this offseason to not only find a low post scorer but find a guy who can shoot more and Hinrich shoot less. Sign Sam Dalembert. Draft another big to join the rotation. Could always sign Bobby Simmonds for the MLE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted March 22, 2005 Author Share Posted March 22, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 01:40 PM) Aye, Hinrich will not be a problem. If we trade Curry for ATL's 1st we can draft Bogut. I would wet myself at that chance. I saw a proposal last night that had sending Steve Francis to Atlanta for their 1st so we could draft Bogut. I almost fainted with joy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 I think DBAH0 would probably nut his pants if Orlando got Bogut. Come on you know it's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 isnt Simmons a restricted F/A....and Dalembert doesnt really supply that low post go to guy. Bogut.... now that would be interesting. While he isnt pleasant to look at he is a joy to watch play his game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 (edited) i know this is kind of out there.... But what would you guys think if we lose Curry. How bout signing Kwame Brown. Edited March 22, 2005 by SoxFan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Why would we let Eddy go for a s***tier version of him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 08:36 PM) Looks like Catherine Bell. It is. I couldn't remember her name for the life of me. http://www.maconjag2.tvheaven.com/id317.htm Edited March 22, 2005 by qwerty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 08:43 PM) isnt Simmons a restricted F/A....and Dalembert doesnt really supply that low post go to guy. Can you imagaine him and chandler on the court at the same time? We would have two of the most intimidating 4-5's in the entire nba on the same team and both possibly starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 02:44 AM) Why would we let Eddy go for a s***tier version of him? Kwame always had more potential than both our bigs and idonno he has shown some flashes of what he can be and with Hinrich and Duhon passing to him as much as we pass to Curry he could be successful. And he is a pretty good rebounder if I remember right isnt he. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 02:47 AM) Kwame always had more potential than both our bigs and idonno he has shown some flashes of what he can be and with Hinrich and Duhon passing to him as much as we pass to Curry he could be successful. And he is a pretty good rebounder if I remember right isnt he. Kwame Brown is a power forward in the long run. He'll never be a force in the middle. He doesn't have that type of body. Therefore, because of Tyson (another guy who doesn't have the type of body required to man the C position), it would be a waste to go after him. And besides, I have my doubts about Kwame. He had a game against the Heat last year where he scored 0 points in 30 minutes. If anything, that should indicate that he's capable of completely disappearing at times due to a lack of heart, which is precisely what we need to avoid. Maybe he'll be filling up box scores next year or the year after...I have no clue. He certainly has the rebounding & scoring potential to do so. Some people think that when he peaks, his game will be comparable to that of Jermaine O'Neal. However, we already know that Jermaine busts his ass at all times, and he's passionate about winning. The jury is still out on the work ethic & passion of one Kwame Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Good thread... Crawford is the better scorer, but Hinrich is obviously the better player overall. I want to see Eddy succeed here as much as anyone, but he doesn't deserve a big contract. I just don't want to see him go until we have a SOLID replacement for him (and no, nobody will trade the NUMBER ONE pick for him). I'd like to see us go after Joe Johnson (for the right price) or Bobby Simmons (DEPAUL ). Curry for Simmons and Wilcox would have been awesome when it was being rumored. It would be nice to pick up a GOOD player over the offseason, but I already get the feeling we won't do s***... Kwame Brown sucks. Eddy is more valuable, by far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 03:15 AM) Good thread... Crawford is the better scorer, but Hinrich is obviously the better player overall. I want to see Eddy succeed here as much as anyone, but he doesn't deserve a big contract. I just don't want to see him go until we have a SOLID replacement for him (and no, nobody will trade the NUMBER ONE pick for him). I'd like to see us go after Joe Johnson (for the right price) or Bobby Simmons (DEPAUL ). Curry for Simmons and Wilcox would have been awesome when it was being rumored. It would be nice to pick up a GOOD player over the offseason, but I already get the feeling we won't do s***... Kwame Brown sucks. Eddy is more valuable, by far... Joe johnson will cost a s*** load more than the mle which is all we have to spend. I am gonna borrow a post from another thread because for the most part i agree with him and would like to see way what you guys think. bullet Lots of Good wing players coming up this off-season , And we gotta do our best imo to get one. The fact that so many R on the market and not many teams have more than the MLE gives us some options , some of them might be very surprising by not taking more than the MLE. I'd separate them to a few groups: Out of our reach without any trade: Ray Allen - Max Redd - Max Joe Johnson - Big contract I believe teams with money looking for a sg will spend their money on one of those 3. Thats also the reason good wing players might get only an mle offer while in a different situation They'd get more. Surprisingly might turn out being within our reach: Bobby Simmons - Maybe slightly above MLE , Depends where the 1st 3 go.Might wanna return to Chicago area.Unrestricted!! Larry Hughes - with the season he's having , it looks like more than MLE.I don't believe Wiz's have more than that to offer him , especially if they plan to keep Kwame. He'd be an amazing pick for us , but unlikely. His contract might also take a hit due to the top 3.Unrestricted!!!! Jaric - although having a good season when he's playing , his injuries will cut deeply in his new to come contract. For us , It's a fit , Big , defends well , has PG skills. I think he'll get less than MLE, but close.restricted. Spree - he won't be able to feed his familywith the cut in salary coming his way.He's turning 35 , he doesn't behave , and he's a nutcase. Although with a head on his shoulders he can help us tons , I don't believe Pax would even check him out.Unrestricted. Kyle Krover - Great shooter. Surprisingly decent defender as i see it. Phily would match , but they got Delembert as well.will probably get around MLE.I'd love to get him , especially to help our weak offense , but very unlikely.Does he count against their MLE??Restricted. Good wing player I believe would take less than MLE: Devin Brown - Intense energetic guy I'd love to see in Bulls Uni. SA has Barry and Manu , so not sure they'd match offers.I believe a 4 year 11 mil would be enough.Restricted. Raja Bell - Having a good season in a team having an awful season. Good defensive player with nice stroke from 3p land. A very nice Fit and a 4 year 12 mil should do.Unrestricted!! Antonio Daniels - having a good season , More of a big PG with scoring skills. Although deserving MLE I think he'll get less (past injuries also a factor).Unrestricted! Casey Jacobson - good shooter , not great defender. around 3 mil or even less.Unrestricted . Other sg options for less money - around 2-4 mil (some more): Keith Bogans - nice intense gaurd who's future with very young Bobcats ain't clear (might sign Rush and Wallace at 3). Cheaper , and fit for less minutes. Has some offense too.Restricted. Kareem Rush - maybe signed again by Bobcats.Not the defensive stopper at 2.has size , has shooting touch.Unrestricted. Jeff McInnis - more than the 2 mil of course , likely to stay in Cleveland. Has size for a pg , having a good season.very unlikely for us.Unrestricted. The Glove - again , not a sg , will take more than 2 mil , unlikely for us. Still a good defender (not great like he used to) and Unrestricted. Flip Murray - won't get what he wants.3-4 mil I guess. Very good scorer. Bad defender. Not the character for Pax/Skiles.Restricted. Maurice Evans - having a nice season.Restricted. Willie Green - If Sixers resign Delembert and Krover - not much room for a guy that had nice stretches during the season.Restricted. Rodney Rogers - Vet , Good shooter. Not expensive I would guess. turning 34 Y/O.Unrestricted. Unclear future(injuries): Bobby Jackson Kerry Kittles Voshon Lenard Other possible SG's that can help only as role players: Jason Kapono (Restricted) Bostjan Nachbar (Unrestricted) Bryon Russel - Grif with a 3p shot.35 y/o.(Unrestricted) Jon Barry - great shooter.Has energy.36 y/o.(Unrestricted) Shandon Anderson -Good Defender.(Unrestricted) Steve Smith - (Unrestricted) Anthony Peeler - (Unrestricted) Richie Frahm - for some reason I like him.Good shooter.(Unrestricted) There R also Juan Dixon and Tyronn Lue that R too small and not as good as Ben. As U can see - thats lots of SG's , what I believe will result in some of them getting less then what they deserve/expect. I hope Pax can use this SG situation for our benefit and get one for a reasonable price. Edited March 22, 2005 by qwerty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 The only name that jumped out is Larry Hughes, and he's having an amazing year. He should make the All-Defensive First Team after he locks up the steals crown... We don't have enough for him either. I was thinking of Joe Johnson it terms of a sign-and-trade, I guess...There's just so much we could speculate about... Pax better not pull a ron mercer, eddie robinson, or a jalen rose trade on us... Let's finally start getting maximum value if we're going to trade instead of dumping guys as we've done the past few years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted March 22, 2005 Author Share Posted March 22, 2005 Reading a previous Charles Rosen piece, the juice on Bobby Simmonds is that he's a good offensive player and could even better in that regard but he just doesn't offer much in the way of defense. Whether or not this is going to make him a fit with Pax and Skiles philosophies..... I don't know. And Larry Hughes is definitely going to get more than the MLE. He should get about 8 to 10 mill a season, since he's averaging about 20 points per game and more than 3 steals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 09:35 AM) The only name that jumped out is Larry Hughes, and he's having an amazing year. He should make the All-Defensive First Team after he locks up the steals crown... Hughes can't shut anybody down one on one. He's competent, but he's nothing special. He's opportunistic in the passing lanes, but he f***s his team over in ways that won't show up in the box score. Lots of steal attempts = lots of risks. When he gets burnt, he has slow-footed Brendan Haywood, one confused Kwame, and defensively challenged Antawn Jamison to get his back. I dunno if you noticed, but the Wizards are motherf***ing swiss cheese on defense, and Hughes is a major part of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 well i heard part of Kwame's problem is everyone wants to be the shooter on washington and he doesnt get many touches. On our team that wouldt be the case so he would have no excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Well, out of that list i have interest in simmons, brown, daniels jaric, raja (he is the highest on my list for the money). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 04:35 AM) Reading a previous Charles Rosen piece, the juice on Bobby Simmonds is that he's a good offensive player and could even better in that regard but he just doesn't offer much in the way of defense. Whether or not this is going to make him a fit with Pax and Skiles philosophies..... I don't know. And Larry Hughes is definitely going to get more than the MLE. He should get about 8 to 10 mill a season, since he's averaging about 20 points per game and more than 3 steals. Larry Hughes has played fantastic this year. I could see a team giving him big money, assuming he's finally figured things out. I mean the guys always been a hell of a talent, just didn't know how to play the team game. Personally I'd like Bobby Simmons because I think he'd be a good fit. However, I want the Bulls to get another low post player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 08:59 PM) Personally I'd like Bobby Simmons because I think he'd be a good fit. However, I want the Bulls to get another low post player. Chances are that is not happening until davis is gone. I can see the bulls putting big time money into a big time player then. I know you were down on harrington for his one bad game but i would really like him brought back next year. Edited March 23, 2005 by qwerty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 No no no qwerty..Harington is a must bring back. The guy has been tremendous for the Bulls...absolutely tremendous. Definately one of the best role players in the league if you ask me. I was so damn wrong in regards to him earlier in the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 The Bulls are 1-5 without Curry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 08:49 PM) The Bulls are 1-5 without Curry. Yo, I read that in the Tribune today too. I kinda want to believe that the guy is important, but then I remind myself that these players average more rebounds per game than he does: Josh Childress Bobby Sura Kobe Bryant Steve Francis Larry Hughes Jason Richardson Quentin Richardson Tracy McGrady Paul Pierce Lebron James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 03:40 PM) Yo, I read that in the Tribune today too. I kinda want to believe that the guy is important, but then I remind myself that these players average more rebounds per game than he does: Josh Childress Bobby Sura Kobe Bryant Steve Francis Larry Hughes Jason Richardson Quentin Richardson Tracy McGrady Paul Pierce Lebron James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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