shakes Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFanForever @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 04:13 PM) Nice radar gun. Viz jus threw a 110mph slider. That'll be tough to hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Vizcaino has great stuff but his deep flyball outs scare me. Some of those will be homers at the Cell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 04:11 PM) Borchard can be in the outfield to warm up the other outfielders before the game. Then he can sit down. Im saying in theory. Its a great notion to think that borchard finally clicks and we can have 3 home grown starters in the OF with speed and good hitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 (edited) Jabroni will be happy. Ozuna with a lead-off single into right field. Edited March 23, 2005 by qwerty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 (edited) Im saying in theory. Its a great notion to think that borchard finally clicks and we can have 3 home grown starters in the OF with speed and good hitting. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If Borchie could hit .260 AVG / .330 OBP with good power numbers in the majors I would cream in my pants. But I don't see it happening. Edited March 23, 2005 by Jabroni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 10:21 PM) If Borchie could hit .260 AVG / .330 OBP with good power numbers in the majors I would cream in my pants. I think Joe would cream himself too if that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 04:19 PM) Vizcaino has great stuff but his deep flyball outs scare me. Some of those will be homers at the Cell. Pitching in Tucson will make Viz's breaking ball have less movement on it, not to mention the balls fly there, that fly to center looked like a routine fly ball that kept carrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshot7 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFanForever @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 02:22 PM) I think Joe would cream himself too if that happened. eww...... tmi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 10:13 PM) I know but I'm just saying both were old for the minor leagues but always produced, same thing in that respect. I wonder if age isn't almost always overrated -- at least up until players really start to decline, mid 30s or maybe a touch earlier. The idea seems to be that if someone has played extremely well and not been called, there must be SOMETHING wrong with him. It's not as if there're hidden volumes on these players. I'm just not so quick to discount the possibility of a bad organization, or other reasons -- maybe a vicious cycle of being too old leading to leaving the guy in the minors, making him yet another year older. I don't know -- anyone seen something that looks at this? I've been thinking about it since all the 'Rogo is too old' stuff at the start of st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Who was that Martinez guy who just batted left handed for the sox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 10:24 PM) I wonder if age isn't almost always overrated -- at least up until players really start to decline, mid 30s or maybe a touch earlier. The idea seems to be that if someone has played extremely well and not been called, there must be SOMETHING wrong with him. It's not as if there're hidden volumes on these players. I'm just not so quick to discount the possibility of a bad organization, or other reasons -- maybe a vicious cycle of being too old leading to leaving the guy in the minors, making him yet another year older. I don't know -- anyone seen something that looks at this? I've been thinking about it since all the 'Rogo is too old' stuff at the start of st. I'm sort of thinking the same thing with Ozuna. Why hasn't a guy with an .800 OPS gotten more than 111 AB's in the majors? I mean, he certainly hasn't performed well in those 111 AB's, but that's really not enough AB's to make a good judgement on the guy. Attitude problems, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 (edited) I wonder if age isn't almost always overrated -- at least up until players really start to decline, mid 30s or maybe a touch earlier. The idea seems to be that if someone has played extremely well and not been called, there must be SOMETHING wrong with him. It's not as if there're hidden volumes on these players. I'm just not so quick to discount the possibility of a bad organization, or other reasons -- maybe a vicious cycle of being too old leading to leaving the guy in the minors, making him yet another year older. I don't know -- anyone seen something that looks at this? I've been thinking about it since all the 'Rogo is too old' stuff at the start of st. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's probably true. Pablo Ozuna was blocked by Luis Castillo on the Marlins and our very own Juan Uribe on the Rockies. Ross Gload was blocked by Todd Helton as previously stated. After awhile, they never get a chance and are deemed "too old" for the majors. I'm sort of thinking the same thing with Ozuna. Why hasn't a guy with an .800 OPS gotten more than 111 AB's in the majors? I mean, he certainly hasn't performed well in those 111 AB's, but that's really not enough AB's to make a good judgement on the guy. Attitude problems, perhaps? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I really think Ozuna's problem was when he went from 26 years old to 30 in one day. He lied about his age and no one wants to bring up a 30 year old instead of a 26 year old. They probably figure he has already reached his peak and will be on the decline. Edited March 23, 2005 by Jabroni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 And the benches clear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 And the benches clear! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Bad idea Carlos. I don't think they would let him get anywhere near Damaso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Marte hits lee. Lee looks at marte funny then starts walking out toward him. He got held back by the umps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Marte hits Lee with a fastball, and the benches clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 04:31 PM) And the benches clear! Are you serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 (edited) Lee pushed the umpire back when approaching Marte. Wonder if he'll receive a suspension. Edited March 23, 2005 by Flash Tizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Wow Carlos is a dumbass. Do you really think someone was throwing at you? Duh, it's ST tubby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 (edited) Marte hits lee. Lee looks at marte funny then starts walking out toward him. He got held back by the umps. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Now what do you think about my comment about Lee's attitude? It's a Spring Training game! We don't need that headcase on our team. Edited March 23, 2005 by Jabroni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 (edited) Ohhh poor Carlos got traded to a non contender! See ya later fatass! Edited March 23, 2005 by El Piervizdyeguchansodnik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Weird how they were teammates months ago...Now they're staring down each other. Wonder if they got along in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Somewhere, Eric Chavez is whincing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 You'd think Carlos would have seen Marte pitch long enough to realize that Marte doesn't exactly have pinpoint control on his fastball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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