Nestle crunch time stat.

[qwerty]

Chandler is at five and gordon at eleven pretty f***ing impressive if you ask me.

 

http://www.nba.com/features/nestle/crunch_time_stat.html

 

I was wondering can we maybe have a stickied thread that contain random bulls articles, snippets, thoughts, and whatever else. Now that it is close to the playoffs i am sure there would be enough talk in it.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

damon jones?

 

Talk about a reliable stat...

 

Thanks.

[qwerty]

damon jones?

 

Talk about a reliable stat...

 

Thanks.

 

Because one name jumps out at you that you do not think belongs there it is not credible? Did you read it or just look at the list and see damon jones? I take it that is what you did.

 

Their formula is nothing crazy at all. It's not like they pulled s*** out of their ass.

 

(PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK) - ((FGA - FGM) + (FTA - FTM) + TO) + 4 points if their team wins.

 

Note: If the point differential of the game is greater than 15 points at the two-minute mark, only the losing team's players will be eligible to earn Crunch Time points.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

Because one name jumps out at you that you do not think belongs there it is not credible? Did you read it or just look at the list and see damon jones? I take it that is what you did.

 

Their formula is nothing crazy at all. It's not like they pulled s*** out of their ass.

 

All I did was point out a glaring flaw. That's all.

 

damon jones' decent start is a product of Shaq and Wade, but he's been having some horrible months after that fast start. He isn't good for much more than 3's and an assist or rwo. Those +4 points for every win aren't exactly because of his play during "crunch-time." The Heat have the best record, and we all know it's because of Shaq and Wade. They're getting the ball when it counts.

 

I've seen at least 4 Heat games this year and Damon Jones kinda sucks. The only good thing is that, unlike Duhon, he'll actually hit a wide-open 3 every once in a great while.

[hammerhead johnson]

damon jones' decent start is a product of Shaq and Wade, but he's been having some horrible months after that fast start.  He isn't good for much more than 3's and an assist or two. 

 

I've seen at least 4 Heat games this year and Damon Jones kinda sucks.  The only good thing is that, unlike Duhon, he'll actually hit a wide-open 3 every once in a great while.

 

Damon Jones has 312 assists this year. He averages about 4.5 assists per game, and last year, when he was running the show in Milwaukee, he averaged 6 assists per game and had the second best assist-to-turnover ratio in the league. He also performed very well in the playoffs. The guy's just a clutch motherf***er.

 

He's a 43% three point shooter with close to 450 attempts on the season. To say that he is good strictly on the strength of Shaq and Wade is foolish. Yes, we all know that they're spectacular players, but Wesley Person and Rasual Butler ain't done jack s***. Can you explain that? Shouldn't Shaq and Wade influence them to shoot 43% from three point range and dish out 4.5 assists per game by your logic?

 

He's not much on defense, but that's fine. He's not gonna cost you a lot of money, and he's a superb three point specialist. I'd love to have him on my team as a sixth man. Those 4th quarter numbers don't tell you anything, dude?

 

And Tyson's ranking? Take a look at that list, and tell me that Tyson ain't the most dominant when it comes to altering shots and keeping rebounds alive. Garnett is the only guy that you can compare him to in that regard.

 

I'll take scoring from the 2, 3, and 5. In this league, it's more of a necessity to have excellent defense at the 4. Just pointing out the obvious: Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Jermaine O'Neal, Amare Stoudamire/Shawn Marion, Dirk Nowitzki, Pau Gasol, Carlos Boozer, Kenyon Martin, Rasheed Wallace, Chris Webber, Zach Randolph, Chris Bosh, Antoine Walker, Dwight Howard, Emeka Okafor, etc.

 

Who's gonna stop all of these guys?

 

And that's why people (those in the know) are in favor of getting a strong 6'5 or taller defensive shooting guard like Raja Bell to come in when we need to go on defensive runs, like the Pistons do. You know, someone like Trenton Hassell, who we cut in favor of Linton Johnson.

 

And I know I don't have to list all of the prolific scorers at the SG position in this league, correct?

Edited April 2, 2005 by hammerhead johnson

[SleepyWhiteSox]

Damon Jones has 312 assists this year.  He averages about 4.5 assists per game, and last year, when he was running the show in Milwaukee, he averaged 6 assists per game and had the second best assist-to-turnover ratio in the league.  He also performed very well in the playoffs.  The guy's just a clutch motherf***er.

 

He's a 43% three point shooter with close to 450 attempts on the season.  To say that he is good strictly on the strength of Shaq and Wade is foolish.  Yes, we all know that they're spectacular players, but Wesley Person and Rasual Butler ain't done jack s***.  Can you explain that?  Shouldn't Shaq and Wade influence them to shoot 43% from three point range and dish out 4.5 assists per game by your logic?

 

He's not much on defense, but that's fine.  He's not gonna cost you a lot of money, and he's a superb three point specialist.  I'd love to have him on my team as a sixth man.  Those 4th quarter numbers don't tell you anything, dude?

 

And Tyson's ranking?  Take a look at that list, and tell me that Tyson ain't the most dominant when it comes to altering shots and keeping rebounds alive.  Garnett is the only guy that you can compare him to in that regard. 

 

I'll take scoring from the 2, 3, and 5.  In this league, it's more of a necessity to have excellent defense at the 4.  Just pointing out the obvious: Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Jermaine O'Neal, Amare Stoudamire/Shawn Marion, Dirk Nowitzki, Pau Gasol, Carlos Boozer, Kenyon Martin, Rasheed Wallace, Chris Webber, Zach Randolph, Chris Bosh, Antoine Walker, Dwight Howard, Emeka Okafor, etc.

 

Who's gonna stop all of these guys?   

 

And that's why people (those in the know) are in favor of getting a strong 6'5 or taller defensive shooting guard like Raja Bell to come in when we need to go on defensive runs, like the Pistons do.  You know, someone like Trenton Hassell, who we cut in favor of Linton Johnson.

 

And I know I don't have to list all of the prolific scorers at the SG position in this league, correct?

 

 

I gave him credit for hitting the open 3 rather often, did I not?

 

And to say that only 1's and 4's have to be strong defenders while 2's, 3's, and 5's don't is ridiculous...

[hammerhead johnson]

And to say that only 1's and 4's have to be strong defenders while 2's, 3's, and 5's don't is ridiculous...

 

I never said that. I'll take my OFFENSE from the 2, 3, and 5, and of course the bench (should have indicated that). And I want a strong defender at the 2 or 3 to come in off the bench when we go on defensive runs.

 

You could look at it in a variety of ways depending on the personnel. But to me, in this current league, major contributions on the offensive end from the 1 and the 4 are not a necessity. One guy has to set up the offense and contain the opposing team's 1. The other guy has to grab every rebound in sight and contain the opposing team's 4 on defense, not to mention getting the SG and SF's back when they get burnt (Gordon, Hinrich, Deng). Chandler is so much more important than most people think.

 

But if we had a defensive freak at C, I'd go for a balance of scoring and defense at the 4. With a scoring C (damn near extinct in this league), an all-out defensive freak at the 4 should work out. I mean, Curry's not a good defender and he can't rebound for s***, but how many centers in this league are going to absolutely school him on offense outside of Shaq and Ilgauskus? Those guys are a dying breed, as opposed to all of the offensive all stars at the 4 (as indicated by the list up top). And looking back at that list, I left out Elton Brand, who is a major scoring option, but not when Chandler is on him. It's easy to forget about the Clippers, of course.