southsider2k5 Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 (edited) The White Sox come in at #13, despite being #21 last year in attendance. The Yankees top 4 players salaries combined equal more than 26 individual teams entire payrolls. New York Yankees $ 208,306,817 Boston Red Sox $ 123,505,125 New York Mets $ 101,305,821 Los Angeles Angels $ 97,725,322 Philadelphia Phillies $ 95,522,000 St. Louis Cardinals $ 92,106,833 San Francisco Giants $ 90,199,500 Seattle Mariners $ 87,754,334 Chicago Cubs $ 87,032,933 Atlanta Braves $ 86,457,302 Los Angeles Dodgers $ 83,039,000 Houston Astros $ 76,779,000 Chicago White Sox $ 75,178,000 Baltimore Orioles $ 73,914,333 Detroit Tigers $ 69,092,000 San Diego Padres $ 63,290,833 Arizona Diamondbacks $ 62,329,166 Cincinnati Reds $ 61,892,583 Florida Marlins $ 60,408,834 Minnesota Twins $ 56,186,000 Texas Rangers $ 55,849,000 Oakland Athletics $ 55,425,762 Washington Nationals $ 48,581,500 Colorado Rockies $ 48,155,000 Toronto Blue Jays $ 45,719,500 Cleveland Indians $ 41,502,500 Milwaukee Brewers $ 39,934,833 Pittsburgh Pirates $ 38,133,000 Kansas City Royals $ 36,881,000 Tampa Bay Devil Rays $ 29,363,067 Edited April 7, 2005 by southsider2k5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 It's surprising to see that the "stingy, cheap" White Sox are spending 6 million more in payroll than the "aggressive, willing to pay for the top free agents" Detroit Tigers. Once you get past the recent FA's like Percival, Rodriguez and Ordonez, and then the second-tire guys like White, Urbina, Higginson and Young, they must have a LOT of minimum or near-minimum guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 7, 2005 Author Share Posted April 7, 2005 Something else interesting from USA today... Sox payrolls the last 3 years 2005 $75 mil 2004 $65 mil 2003 $51 mil The payroll has gone up $25 million or 50% in the last two season. Which is real interesting when you look at our attendance #'s. 2002 1.67 million 2003 1.94 million 2004 1.93 million Now I know ticket prices have gone up, but not nearly that much. I will be interested to see the Forbes P/L figures for the Sox this year. The payroll jump is huge vs the attendance levels we have had. Yeah JR and company are really lining their pockets on this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 No big suprise to me, personally. Thanks for the info, SS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 I found the Cubs # interesting. Maybe that doesn't include the Sosa obligation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 7, 2005 Author Share Posted April 7, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 09:08 AM) I found the Cubs # interesting. Maybe that doesn't include the Sosa obligation? I am pretty sure it does not. In the accompanying article it talks about how the Yankees payroll dips below $200 mil when the ARod payments from Texas are included. While the players on the Yankees’ opening-day roster totaled $205.9 million, cash received by New York in trades, notably last year’s deal to acquire A-Rod from Texas, cut the team’s payroll to $199.77 million. So with that in mind, it doesn't look like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Yeah JR and company are really lining their pockets on this team. Hmm.. raise ticket prices by about 25% .. and wow you can increase the payroll by about 25%.. When I got my season tix in 03, they were about 1400.. The next year they wanted 1650...do It was only a 18% increase in 04..Now this also doesn't take into account the increase in parking, concession stand, and beer prices.. and wow.. there comes the increase in payroll. Still The owners are not putting anything into this team..We are..Until the owners show they that care as much about this team as we do I don't see us getting any top FA.. down the line.. I still think Mags is right.. they don't care about winning, they care about money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 09:19 AM) Hmm.. raise ticket prices by about 25% .. and wow you can increase the payroll by about 25%.. When I got my season tix in 03, they were about 1400.. The next year they wanted 1650...do It was only a 18% increase in 04..Now this also doesn't take into account the increase in parking, concession stand, and beer prices.. and wow.. there comes the increase in payroll. Still The owners are not putting anything into this team..We are..Until the owners show they that care as much about this team as we do I don't see us getting any top FA.. down the line.. I still think Mags is right.. they don't care about winning, they care about money. Seriously? You want owners to go into debt? Look at the Diamondbacks...I can't believe you would say that. If you owned the team, would you put a ton of extra money into it? I doubt it, also, we're in the top half of salaries, what is wrong with you people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 QUOTE(SuperSteve @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 10:06 AM) Seriously? You want owners to go into debt? Look at the Diamondbacks...I can't believe you would say that. If you owned the team, would you put a ton of extra money into it? I doubt it, also, we're in the top half of salaries, what is wrong with you people? Consider the source. :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Worst bang for the buck...Phillies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 01:28 AM) Worst bang for the buck...Phillies? Ed Wade's skating on very thin ice, and it won't be easy in that division either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 10:07 AM) Consider the source. :rolly No kidding. This one acts like everything raised and those that perform the services continued to work at 1955 wages.. :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 12:19 AM) Hmm.. raise ticket prices by about 25% .. and wow you can increase the payroll by about 25%.. When I got my season tix in 03, they were about 1400.. The next year they wanted 1650...do It was only a 18% increase in 04..Now this also doesn't take into account the increase in parking, concession stand, and beer prices.. and wow.. there comes the increase in payroll. Still The owners are not putting anything into this team..We are..Until the owners show they that care as much about this team as we do I don't see us getting any top FA.. down the line.. I still think Mags is right.. they don't care about winning, they care about money. Let's go from the Kotex Boy view here - Sports Owners should be in it to win, and not care about wasting money and making losses. A Business Person - You want to get a return on your investment. And the increases in concessions, you can put that down to inflation. If payroll keeps rising the way it is, in 3 years we could have over $100 million. And Maggs is just pissed he didn't get his original deal, even though it was the right decision to let him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigHurt35 Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Excellent news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 7, 2005 Author Share Posted April 7, 2005 QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 10:28 AM) Worst bang for the buck...Phillies? Mets and Orioles have to be up there as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 10:28 AM) Worst bang for the buck...Phillies? I'm going to put in a vote for the Giants. There is no way they have a $90 million team. Bonds and Schmidt are worth it and the newly acquired Benitez and Alou (think they overpayed, but he's productive) are okay, but the rest of their contracts are pretty brutal. For $90 mil they somehow have only one above average starter, a mediocre lineup that Bonds is carrying, and a less than stellar pen. I really don't see them hanging around with Bonds out, he's been propping that team up for the last couple of years. Yeah, the Phillies, Mets, and Orioles also underachieve, but I think the Giants have the fewest productive players and the least balance of that group. Edited April 7, 2005 by ZoomSlowik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWs OK for Me Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 So Carlos Lee is about 20% of the Brewers payroll? That seems obscene to me. I just dont believe that you can put 20% of your payroll into one player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 QUOTE(KWs OK for Me @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 11:38 AM) So Carlos Lee is about 20% of the Brewers payroll? That seems obscene to me. I just dont believe that you can put 20% of your payroll into one player I believe we will see a gradual increase in the Brewers payroll. They have to start somewhere if that's the plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 10:12 AM) Mets and Orioles have to be up there as well. Mets are consistently in the Least Bang For The Buck category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigHurt35 Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Where were these figures obtained? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 7, 2005 Author Share Posted April 7, 2005 QUOTE(TheBigHurt35 @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 12:00 PM) Where were these figures obtained? They are in today's Trib is where I saw them. USA today has a great database that has historical figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 So what the hell are the Braves paying for??? They have Hudson, Chipper, Smoltz and Jones. The rest of the guys from what I know, dont make much or at least don't deserve to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigHurt35 Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 11:02 AM) They are in today's Trib is where I saw them. USA today has a great database that has historical figures. Thanks. I also found that USA Today and ESPN have differing figures on the Sox this year ($75,178,000 vs. $77,903,000, respectively). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Oh yeah, anyone email this to Mariotti??? I swear, someone needs to completely call out this jagbag. The Sox could have the best 10 year run for any team winning the WS in all 10 years and he'll still have 5 bad things to say everyday. Hell, why isn't he talking about the Cubs being 1-2? By the way he writes his column, it makes it seem like we've lost both games by a total of 14 runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 http://www.forbes.com/lists/results.jhtml?...ry&passKeyword= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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