Rex Kickass Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 01:51 PM) Now I will have nightmares. That dang show STILL creeps me out, especially that dang hippo with the hanky. Ewww. That show was awful. Remember those weird GED programs on at like 11:30 am too? I used to watch that or Emergency before going to Kindergarten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gleason Posted April 8, 2005 Author Share Posted April 8, 2005 QUOTE(winodj @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 12:53 PM) Ewww. That show was awful. Remember those weird GED programs on at like 11:30 am too? I used to watch that or Emergency before going to Kindergarten. Emergency. I am still awaiting the Series DVD for THAT one! I will be the first in line for that release. Dixie...oh Dixie... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(The Critic @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 01:53 PM) I'm in my 40's now, and I'm not qualified for "AlcoholicA" either anymore, but I still like metal, so why don't they!!! I'm sure their old stuff still sounds good live, but I'm not interested in hearing anything after "...And Justice For All". It's just not the same band, and I don't like what they've become. If others do, that's cool, but to my ears it's just hideous. I'm a loooooooong-time fan, but I also gave up on them over a decade ago. I've seen them in concert many times, the first being at Metro ( then called Cabaret Metro ) in I believe it was 1983 ( may have been 84? Raven was with them, I think it was 83....MAN, did I like Raven.... ) and the last time being in 93 or 94 at the Allstate Arena ( then called the Rosemont Horizon ). I heard all I needed to hear of the Black Album at that show, and I didn't like it one bit. I'd say the best show I saw them put on was with Queensryche at the UIC Pavilion ( then called the UIC Pavilion ) in 1989. THAT was a great show! That movie Some Kind Of Monster is some of the funniest s*** you will EVER see! It's not intended to be funny, but it is. It's on VH1 this Saturday at 9pm. You certainly were off the bandwagon early. I've always been a big fan and always will be. As time goes on, most bands aren't able to maintain that same sound. THere are exceptions, but not too many. They certainly have produced some of the best music in the metal genre. No doubt about it. Anyway, Metal Up Your Ass! Edited April 8, 2005 by tonyho7476 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 Isn't Metallica the band that lost to Jethro Tull for a Hard Rock / Metal Grammy? You know, the guys with the heavy metal flute, as compared to a light metal flute just asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gleason Posted April 8, 2005 Author Share Posted April 8, 2005 I actually DO like Tull though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 QUOTE(Texsox @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 02:12 PM) Isn't Metallica the band that lost to Jethro Tull for a Hard Rock / Metal Grammy? You know, the guys with the heavy metal flute, as compared to a light metal flute just asking That's obviously ridiculous...since Tull is not 'metal'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gleason Posted April 8, 2005 Author Share Posted April 8, 2005 (edited) How much Jethro Tull have you heard? If you don't knock them into the "Progressive Rock" category that they do occupy, and you look at it in the ways of much of the world (and have never heard of Prog Rock), there is no other category for Tull than Metal. Plus, much Prog falls in the Metal world and most Metalheads have a few Prog bands that they enjoy. Check out Anglagard for one. Edit!!!!!!!!!! Also, at the time of this happening, Metal was a MUCH different critter than it is now. Death Metal had yet to really show up outside of Napalm Death, Celtic Frost, and Slayer, and none of those really are what we now see as Death Metal. There was very little EXTREME Metal, and what there was was more of Crossover stuff from the NY Hardcore scene, and it was not recognized by the media. Frustrating thing some of us was all the "originality" being praised about with bands such as Metallica, Anthrax, Megadeth and others, when in reality there were many bands such as Agnostic Front and The Cro-Mags blazing those trails first in the NY underground. Ahem...sorry. But yeah, in 1988, Tull was surely a "Metal" band in the eyes of much of society. Edited April 8, 2005 by Kid Gleason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 07:28 PM) How much Jethro Tull have you heard? If you don't knock them into the "Progressive Rock" category that they do occupy, and you look at it in the ways of much of the world (and have never heard of Prog Rock), there is no other category for Tull than Metal. Plus, much Prog falls in the Metal world and most Metalheads have a few Prog bands that they enjoy. Check out Anglagard for one. I love Tull. I saw Ian Anderson and them at Ravinia a few years ago real cheap and it was awesome. He still puts on a great show and is a crazy guy. I'd like to see them at a better venue though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 02:28 PM) How much Jethro Tull have you heard? If you don't knock them into the "Progressive Rock" category that they do occupy, and you look at it in the ways of much of the world (and have never heard of Prog Rock), there is no other category for Tull than Metal. Plus, much Prog falls in the Metal world and most Metalheads have a few Prog bands that they enjoy. Check out Anglagard for one. Edit!!!!!!!!!! Also, at the time of this happening, Metal was a MUCH different critter than it is now. Death Metal had yet to really show up outside of Napalm Death, Celtic Frost, and Slayer, and none of those really are what we now see as Death Metal. There was very little EXTREME Metal, and what there was was more of Crossover stuff from the NY Hardcore scene, and it was not recognized by the media. Frustrating thing some of us was all the "originality" being praised about with bands such as Metallica, Anthrax, Megadeth and others, when in reality there were many bands such as Agnostic Front and The Cro-Mags blazing those trails first in the NY underground. Ahem...sorry. But yeah, in 1988, Tull was surely a "Metal" band in the eyes of much of society. Jethro Tull is not metal...flutes automatically exclude them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 It's Middle Earth Metal. Inspired by Metallica, I'm putting out two albums this year. Next week look for "Tarred." Then in time for Christmas, look for "ReTarred" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 Dumb decsion. All you have to do is replace the choc chips with healthier cookies : oatmeal & strawberry fig bars. What a weird thread. From Sesame Street to Zoom then to Metallica & Jethro Tull. You'll only find that at SOXTALK.COM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gleason Posted April 8, 2005 Author Share Posted April 8, 2005 Yeah. I have to thank The Critic for this one. I started the dang thread and then he hijacks it into being a Metallica discussion. He knows I hate Metallica, and that is what really hurts about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 HEY YOU GUYS! We're gonna turn it on. We're gonna bring you the power We're gonna light up the dark of night like the brightest day in a whole new way We're gonna turn it on we're gonna bring you the power It's coming down the lines, strong as they can be Through the courtesy of The Electric Company The Electric Company. The Electric Company! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 All these kids shows being mentioned and no Schoolhouse Rock???? For shame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 Boy: Woof! You sure gotta climb a lot of steps to get to this Capitol Building here in Washington. But I wonder who that sad little scrap of paper is? I'm just a bill. Yes, I'm only a bill. And I'm sitting here on Capitol Hill. Well, it's a long, long journey To the capital city. It's a long, long wait While I'm sitting in committee, But I know I'll be a law someday At least I hope and pray that I will, But today I am still just a bill. I'm just a bill Yes I'm only a bill, And I got as far as Capitol Hill. Well, now I'm stuck in committee And I'll sit here and wait While a few key Congressmen discuss and debate Whether they should let me be a law. How I hope and pray that they will, But today I am still just a bill. I'm just a bill Yes, I'm only a bill And if they vote for me on Capitol Hill Well, then I'm off to the White House Where I'll wait in a line With a lot of other bills For the president to sign And if he signs me, then I'll be a law. How I hope and pray that he will, But today I am still just a bill. But how I hope and I pray that I will, But today I am still just a bill. Congressman: He signed you, Bill! Now you're a law! Bill: Oh yes!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 QUOTE(winodj @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 03:09 PM) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 OK, now I'm mad. You DON'T have a conversation about Jethro Tull around here without me, got it? Good. Ian was as surprised as anyone that 'Crest of a Knave' was nominated in the Metal category (let alone that it was nominated in 1989, more than a year after it's 1987 debut). The album is on the heavy side compared to the followup 'Rock Island' or the way more folksy/bluesey 'Catfish Rising' after that. But Brit progressive rock is as good a label to put on a very hard to categorize group. That said, the Metal moniler is historically not far off the mark when you listen to the first couple of albums with Martin Barre on guitar and swaer it could be Tony Iomi at times. Consider also that Iomi was actually in teh runniung to replace Mick Abrahams as Tull guitarist before Martin got the gig, and it's fairly clear they were at least skirting the heavy metal world almost since the beginning - the debut album 'This Was...' excluded as Abrahams/Anderson were very rooted in white Brit blues cum folk-jazz on that one. As for Metallica being a shade of their former selves after 'And Justice For All,' I would agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 01:49 PM) Yeah. I have to thank The Critic for this one. I started the dang thread and then he hijacks it into being a Metallica discussion. He knows I hate Metallica, and that is what really hurts about this. Ahhhh, you're resilient, you'll get over it..... Old Metallica = Recent Metallica = :sleep :puke :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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