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QUOTE(qwerty @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 04:24 AM)
Dude, isn't it obvious when i say he cannot box out he cannot do it well? Like i honestly think he has never once in his career boxed someone out.

 

 

I heard he boxed out a school of nuns at McDonald's last year.

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QUOTE(rangercal @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:24 AM)
Pwned!!!!            part 2

 

 

 

Getting posterized has very little to do with defense if anything. Some of the best defensive players have gotten dunked on. You saying you would not take yao ming? He gets dunked on nightly. Mutumbo dunked on, rodman dunked on, shaq dunked on, robinson dunked on, garnett dunked on, duncan dunked on, etc... the list goes on forever and ever.

 

Nice try though.

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QUOTE(qwerty @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 04:30 AM)
Getting posterized has very little to do with defense if anything. Some of the best defensive players have gotten dunked on...shaq dunked on... the list goes on forever and ever.

 

Just for my curiosity.

 

Please find me a pic of Shaq being dunked on.

 

 

You have 5 minutes.

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QUOTE(qwerty @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 02:30 AM)
Getting posterized has very little to do with defense if anything. Some of the best defensive players have gotten dunked on. You saying you would not take yao ming? He gets dunked on nightly. Mutumbo dunked on, rodman dunked on, shaq dunked on, robinson dunked on, garnett dunked on, duncan dunked on, etc... the list goes on forever and ever.

 

Nice try though.

I know.

 

 

 

That pic was just for kicks and giggles

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QUOTE(knightni @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:31 AM)
Just for my curiosity.

 

Please find me a pic of Shaq being dunked on.

You have 5 minutes.

 

I will get some tomorrow. I am on some piece of s*** dial up at my friends house and everything i do takes forever.

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QUOTE(rangercal @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 04:34 AM)
Thats hard dude. I noticed qwerty didnt have shaq on his list of players getting dunked on.

Notice a little closer...

 

 

QUOTE(qwerty @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 04:30 AM)
Getting posterized has very little to do with defense if anything. Some of the best defensive players have gotten dunked on. You saying you would not take yao ming? He gets dunked on nightly. Mutumbo dunked on, rodman dunked on, shaq dunked on, robinson dunked on, garnett dunked on, duncan dunked on, etc... the list goes on forever and ever.

 

Nice try though.

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QUOTE(rangercal @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:34 AM)
Thats hard dude. I noticed qwerty didnt have shaq on his list of players getting dunked on.

 

Yes ,i do. I remember seeing a game a couple years back on tnt when someone dunked on his nasty and everyone was making a big deal about it. Only reason i remember it is because i have the nba package and can just see every game. But the tnt games i watch on tnt rather than listen to the other awful announcers.

 

Edit: Yes, it is an excuse even though i mentioned it in the chat with twenty people to witness it.

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QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:37 AM)
I was thinkin' the same thing...    :lol:

 

This from the kid who stayed up til 6 in the morning looking for Curry references...

 

Or try i have insomnia therefore i very rarely sleep.

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QUOTE(qwerty @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 02:37 AM)
Yes ,i do. I remember seeing a game a couple years back on tnt when someone dunked on his nasty and everyone was making a big deal about it. Only reason i remember it is because i have the nba package and can just see every game. But the tnt games i watch on tnt rather than listen to the other awful announcers.

 

Edit: Yes, it is an excuse even though i mentioned it in the chat with twenty people to witness it.

Id like to see this pic. I have about 10 more dalembert pics while we wait..... :bang

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For rangercal because when in rome....

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Now here's the argument on Dalembert; He's NOT going to get a max contract, like Eddy Curry will. He could be had for the mid - level exception for the next 5 seasons. Do you think Golden State would have loved to give him that instead of forking out $40 million over 6 years for THE Adonal Foyle?

 

For those who think he scores nothing but dunks, have a look at the stats;

Eddy Curry - 16.1 points, 5.4 rebounds, .92 blocks per game, 730 FG's attempted

Sam Dalembert - 8.2 points, 7.6 rebounds, 1.69 blocks per game (he had 2.3 blocks per game last season). He ranks 13th in the NBA for rebounds per 48 mins (14.6), and 12th in the NBA for blocks per 48 mins (3.27). Now Dalembert has had 300 less shots than Eddy Curry this year, and if he came to the Bulls that number would rise. AI would have at least 20 shots per game, and Webber would have about 15, plus you've got Korver lighting up from the outside, and Jackson and Igoudola.

 

When Eddy Curry is on the court, the Bulls are 2.1% worse off. When he is off the court, the Bulls are 3.2% better off.

 

When Sam Dalembert is on the court, the 76ers and 0.9% better off. When he is off the court, they are 2.9% worse off.

 

This site shows the diff in stats b/w the two; Salembert is +1.3 above the average (*PER), while Curry is +4.2, the main difference being Curry is down in rebounding, turnovers, blocks and assists, but he's way ahead in scoring. The Bulls have to decide whether or not they are willing to live with Curry's shortcomings in the other areas of his game other than his scoring.

http://www.82games.com/04CHI13C.HTM

 

How do Curry and Chandler play on the same court together? Not good, at a -7, something to keep in mind for the future. http://www.82games.com/0405CHIP.HTM

 

Looking at PER Diff vs. On / Off Court Diff, Curry comes off with a -1.8, while Dalembert has a +1.2.

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QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:31 AM)
When Eddy Curry is on the court, the Bulls are 2.1% worse off. When he is off the court, the Bulls are 3.2% better off.

 

When Sam Dalembert is on the court, the 76ers and 0.9% better off. When he is off the court, they are 2.9% worse off.

 

 

 

Looking at PER Diff vs. On / Off Court Diff, Curry comes off with a -1.8, while Dalembert has a +1.2.

This is the most over-rated statistic ever. They are on totally different teams. I could understand if they were on the same team and you compare them with those stats. Philly is not a good team, any medicore player can look like he makes the team better when on the court.

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