Butter Parque Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Great win! The Bullpen was obviously huge. The good thing is, we have been winning these last few games without any help from Dye or Konerko, when they get back, there will be no stopping us. 2 Questions: Do you think Pods will be back tommorow? How bad did Contreras look? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Apr 14, 2005 -> 02:13 AM) Its a good point, but I'm sure Ozzie's thinking is he doesn't want to use Widger unless AJ gets hurt, because if he goes down, then a non catcher will have to catch. I wish he used the same philosophy with the bullpen the first loss of the season. The Sox would be 7-1 right now. Well, that's just a bad philosophy (as far as catching goes). Sorry, but the odds of that are very small, and Konerko at catcher would be bad, but not a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 How bad did Contreras look? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Too many full counts and too many walks (5 tonight). If Contreras could keep his walks down he would be a solid #3 pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 6-2! Great Win. Have El Duque bring the broom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Well, that's just a bad philosophy (as far as catching goes). Sorry, but the odds of that are very small, and Konerko at catcher would be bad, but not a disaster. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I hope you're kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpy2121 Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 13, 2005 -> 09:04 PM) Great chat tonight, too. Lots of good laughs in there. Nice win! Bring the brooms tomorrow -- Orlando Hernandez vs. Scott Elarton. Hopefully we can get a good turnout tomorrow for the sweep! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 14, 2005 -> 02:19 AM) I hope you're kidding. Why? He would catch the ball, have no chance whatsoever at throwing someone out at 2nd (I wouldn't even expect him to throw), but he might still get someone trying to steal 3rd. He came up as a catcher, it doesn't ALL go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 14, 2005 -> 02:19 AM) I hope you're kidding. They'd run on him, but all he has to do is catch the ball. He's done it before, I'd bet he'd be able to do it if it was a last option. I agree with jackie, though, it's a bad strategy to not pinch run for a guy because you fear that your backup might get injured. If that's gonna cripple you in a situation like we had tonight, then get Jamie Burke up here for Timo, and send Harris down when Frank gets back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 It'll be really fun to watch this team when they start hitting. It's nice what you can get away with when you have five legitimate starters and a solid pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kogs35 Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 nice win tonight, and ANOTHER SERIES WIN. lets go for the sweep tomorow night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 They'd run on him, but all he has to do is catch the ball. He's done it before, I'd bet he'd be able to do it if it was a last option. I agree with jackie, though, it's a bad strategy to not pinch run for a guy because you fear that your backup might get injured. If that's gonna cripple you in a situation like we had tonight, then get Jamie Burke up here for Timo, and send Harris down when Frank gets back... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Besides the fact that Paulie's hips are bad, do you need any other reason for it being a very bad idea? Paulie hasn't played catcher since his early days with the Dodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Apr 13, 2005 -> 08:21 PM) Why? He would catch the ball, have no chance whatsoever at throwing someone out at 2nd (I wouldn't even expect him to throw), but he might still get someone trying to steal 3rd. He came up as a catcher, it doesn't ALL go away. Although Konerko started out a catcher, I doubt he is the White Sox emergency catcher. Guys who don't know what they're doing can easily get hurt back there, and I doubt the White Sox would want to risk one of their best offensive players for this. I have never understood the philosophy about saving the back up catcher, but a lot of managers use it. I agree with the earlier post that the odds of Widger getting hurt enough to leave the game is very small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 this team is playing some really solid team-ball. They're not doing anything flashy, just winning and i love it. We all know what team this is reminding us of. Hint: they play in our division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 (edited) I was just saying this to Soxnbears.... Now I see why the Twins are so successful. They win a lot of games they shouldn't have, or at least it appears that way. I feel we're doing the same thing now. If we can continue winning when the offense really starts clicking, and still be able to pull out these kind of wins when it's not, it's going to be a fun season. Edited April 14, 2005 by greasywheels121 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 14, 2005 -> 02:25 AM) Besides the fact that Paulie's hips are bad, do you need any other reason for it being a very bad idea? Paulie hasn't played catcher since his early days with the Dodgers. It's an emergency situation -- real unlikely to happen. In a pinch, for an inning, I don't think it would be terrible, no. More than an inning? Now I'm worried -- we should just take one for the team and lose the game, at that point. Like I said, though, if Ozzie is that worried that he can't pinch run for a slow runner in a key situation because he's worried about only having one catcher left, Burke should be on the club with Timo/Harris down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Apr 13, 2005 -> 09:27 PM) I was just saying this to Soxnbears.... Now I see why the Twins are so successful. They win a lot of games they shouldn't have, or at least it appears that way. I feel we're doing the same thing now. If we can continue winning when the offense really starts clicking, and still be able to pull out these kind of wins when it's not, it's going to be a fun season. I thought he was talking about the royals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 It's an emergency situation -- real unlikely to happen. In a pinch, for an inning, I don't think it would be terrible, no. More than an inning? Now I'm worried -- we should just take one for the team and lose the game, at that point. Like I said, though, if Ozzie is that worried that he can't pinch run for a slow runner in a key situation because he's worried about only having one catcher left, Burke should be on the club with Timo/Harris down. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I also doubt that Paulie is our emergency catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 13, 2005 -> 09:29 PM) I also doubt that Paulie is our emergency catcher. Who then? Willie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Apr 14, 2005 -> 02:25 AM) Although Konerko started out a catcher, I doubt he is the White Sox emergency catcher. Guys who don't know what they're doing can easily get hurt back there, and I doubt the White Sox would want to risk one of their best offensive players for this. I have never understood the philosophy about saving the back up catcher, but a lot of managers use it. I agree with the earlier post that the odds of Widger getting hurt enough to leave the game is very small. I think he probably remembers enough to not get hurt, which is all I'd really expect. I thought he was the emergency catcher, but I could be wrong on that. If not PK, who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 14, 2005 -> 02:29 AM) I also doubt that Paulie is our emergency catcher. Ok, we're both making a big deal about something that really, really has a tiny chance of happening. I just think Pierz should have been pinch run for with Willie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox91403 Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Ozzie Guillen=terrible. Why is Contreras brought out to pitch the 7th. I thought that is why we acquired Hermanson Vizcaino, kept Politte. Jose salvaged what was a terrible beginning into a nice start and should have been done after 6. But instead idiot Ozzie brings him out in the 7th and he gives up the lead. Ozzie is not a very good manager. I'm very happy with the win, despite the manager constantly making bad decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox91403 Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Apr 13, 2005 -> 08:30 PM) I think he probably remembers enough to not get hurt, which is all I'd really expect. I thought he was the emergency catcher, but I could be wrong on that. If not PK, who? I know Graffanino was in '03, but as far as last year and this, I have no idea who it would be. But, I'll say it could be Konerko over anyone else on the team right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Apr 14, 2005 -> 02:30 AM) Who then? Willie? Lol, Jabroni would put Willie in any situation that might involve injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Could this be another "Winning Ugly" team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Lol, Jabroni would put Willie in any situation that might involve injury. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, I was pissed when Ozzie didn't pinch-run Willie for A.J. Other than that, Willie can warm the pine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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