winninguglyin83 Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 From today's Detroit Free Press. Something about this seems a little strange. TIGERS CORNER: Ailing Ordonez home for tests April 14, 2005 BY JOHN LOWE FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER MINNEAPOLIS -- In the five-year stretch ending in 2003, Magglio Ordonez averaged only 11 games per season in which he didn't start in the outfield for the White Sox. He might be out of the lineup for 11 games this month before he gets his first RBI as a Tiger. For the second time in the regular season and third time in the past few weeks, Ordonez has been sidelined with intestinal trouble. Ordonez played Tuesday night for the first time in nearly a week. Wednesday, he had discomfort that makes him "feel he can't play," said athletic trainer Kevin Rand. As the club prepared to play the Twins on Wednesday night, Ordonez headed to Detroit "for numerous tests . . . by a battery of specialists," Rand said. Manager Alan Trammell said he didn't expect Ordonez back for tonight's series finale. If Ordonez misses tonight's game, he will have missed six of the first nine games. The intestinal trouble first knocked him out for the final three games of spring training. In three regular-season games, he's 0-for-10 with no RBIs. After he struck out in his first two at-bats Tuesday night, Ordonez told Trammell, "My timing is off." Ordonez didn't appear to run full speed to first when he grounded to third in the eighth. With the Tigers ahead by a run, Trammell lifted him for defensive replacement Nook Logan. Rand said Ordonez will undergo a more thorough level of testing. "I can't get into specifics, but we're looking to run whatever tests we need to run to get to the bottom of this," Rand said. "We want to leave no stone unturned. ... We need to find out why this has continued to plague him." When Ordonez signed his $75-million free-agent contract, he said his foremost desire was to play every day. The implication was that if he played he would produce, as when he averaged 118 RBIs per season in those five years with the White Sox in which he started virtually every day. "Magglio wants to compete in the worst way," Rand said. "I think it's extremely frustrating to him that he can't perform at his level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 What seems strange to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted April 14, 2005 Author Share Posted April 14, 2005 just wonder if he's really got a virus or he's really got bad wheels. Can't the Tigers get out of his contract if he misses X number of games because of knee trouble? I just wonder about his overall health. And it certainly seems like the Sox did the right thing by not paying him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 (edited) In three regular-season games, he's 0-for-10 with no RBIs. After he struck out in his first two at-bats Tuesday night, Ordonez told Trammell, "My timing is off." Ordonez didn't appear to run full speed to first when he grounded to third in the eighth. With the Tigers ahead by a run, Trammell lifted him for defensive replacement Nook Logan. "Magglio wants to compete in the worst way," I think he's doing precisely that. Edited April 14, 2005 by YASNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 The Tigs should of been smart and put him on the DL but I think they originally thought the whole thing would keep him out a few days minimum. Hell, they could of had him on retroactive but since he played yesterday there went that idea. It would just be a good insurance for them financially cause if he is banged up the whole year or something then they at least have the option of ending the contract. On the bright side assuming these aren't knee related I don't think I'd be too worried if I were the Tigers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted April 14, 2005 Author Share Posted April 14, 2005 I watched him play against the Tigers Tuesday night. Looked different. About 10 to 15 pounds lighter. (IRod looks even lighter than Maggs.) Stance is much more open than it was last few seasons with the Sox. And he looked a bit tentative in the outfield. Can't believe playing in Minnesota on turf could be the best thing for his knee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 14, 2005 -> 10:21 AM) I think he's doing precisely that. Hey, ohh! He sure is sticking up the joint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ Apr 14, 2005 -> 09:19 AM) just wonder if he's really got a virus or he's really got bad wheels. Can't the Tigers get out of his contract if he misses X number of games because of knee trouble? I just wonder about his overall health. And it certainly seems like the Sox did the right thing by not paying him. The contract was reported as 25 days or more on the DL due to the knee problem. This cetainly doesn't fall under that. So, who knows what the real issue is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 QUOTE(ptatc @ Apr 14, 2005 -> 10:42 AM) The contract was reported as 25 days or more on the DL due to the knee problem. This cetainly doesn't fall under that. So, who knows what the real issue is. True. This could be a smoke and mirrors job by the Tigers, or it could be completely unrelated to the knee injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 14, 2005 -> 09:21 AM) I think he's doing precisely that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotop Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Intestinal Trouble? Man, this injury sounds Giambi-esque. I'm not saying Maggs was/is on steroids, but I remember Yankee players complaining of the same thing last year (Giambi and Brown). With Brown it wasn't that big of a deal but w/Giambi it wrecked his season...so who knows what this is, even if it isn't his knee. Either way I'm glad we don't have all of this drama on our club this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted April 14, 2005 Author Share Posted April 14, 2005 my thoughts exactly. this has been going on with Maggs since the end of spring training. Amen to his departure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Maggs took the collar against a certain Minnesota pitcher, name of Joe Mays. Gee I've never seen that before! I doubt that it's his knee, but I can hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 I don't care what it is, when he comes back, or how he performs. I appreciate his time with the Sox, but he's not on my mind anymore. I only care about his performance 19 games per year now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 QUOTE(The Critic @ Apr 14, 2005 -> 12:01 PM) I don't care what it is, when he comes back, or how he performs. I appreciate his time with the Sox, but he's not on my mind anymore. I only care about his performance 19 games per year now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 QUOTE(The Critic @ Apr 14, 2005 -> 12:01 PM) I don't care what it is, when he comes back, or how he performs. I appreciate his time with the Sox, but he's not on my mind anymore. I only care about his performance 19 games per year now. I'm concerned with him all year, because Detroit has a chance to compete with us for 1st. Although I agree with appreciating his services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Score670's Dan Bernstein claims Maggs is significantly less husky this year. hmm..... i'll have to get a good look whenever he returns. then again if he keeps hitting .000 he'll never be on SC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 QUOTE(Princess Dye @ Apr 14, 2005 -> 05:13 PM) Score670's Dan Bernstein claims Maggs is significantly less husky this year. hmm..... i'll have to get a good look whenever he returns. then again if he keeps hitting .000 he'll never be on SC I bet. He probably couldn't lift weights for a long time and I'm bet he can't keep food down if his stomach is screwed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Bartman's my idol Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 I heard it was menstrual, the crying little b****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 QUOTE(Steve Bartman's my idol @ Apr 14, 2005 -> 12:45 PM) I heard it was menstrual, the crying little b****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 He is a lot smaller than last year for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Apr 14, 2005 -> 12:12 PM) I'm concerned with him all year, because Detroit has a chance to compete with us for 1st. Although I agree with appreciating his services. No they don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Apr 14, 2005 -> 12:12 PM) I'm concerned with him all year, because Detroit has a chance to compete with us for 1st. Although I agree with appreciating his services. Dmitri, is that you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted April 14, 2005 Author Share Posted April 14, 2005 Hey, if Magss sits against us, Higginson plays. Not sure that's good for us considering the way Higginson rakes against the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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