Alex Smith to Miami

[DBAHO]

Things are starting to get interesting;

 

The Dolphins have reportedly settled on Alex Smith with the second pick of the draft, although Tampa Bay is considering a trade up for him.

Ronnie Brown should fall to No. 3 or No. 4. Miami will listen to offers to move down from Tampa, who has a surplus of picks in later rounds. If the Dolphins can't move, it's bad news for A.J. Feeley. Apr. 15 - 9:40 am et

[shakes]

Mike Mulligan of the Sun Times said Miami is looking at a QB and also likes Braylon Edwards.

 

I still think they trade this pick.

[T R U]

Dont read too much into that...

 

Miami is expressing interest in Alex Smith to try and get Tampa Bay to trade up with them... Miami as of right now only has 5 picks in the draft, (1,3,4,5,7) and Saban desperatly wants to add more picks..

 

As of right now I see it as a smoke screen.. If Miami does draft Alex Smith, I could see them working out a trade similair to what NY and SD did last year..

 

I do have Miami taking Smith though in my mock draft, because I kinda felt this was gonna happen..

[TheBigHurt35]

Dont read too much into that...

 

Miami is expressing interest in Alex Smith to try and get Tampa Bay to trade up with them... Miami as of right now only has 5 picks in the draft, (1,3,4,5,7) and Saban desperatly wants to add more picks..

 

As of right now I see it as a smoke screen.. If Miami does draft Alex Smith, I could see them working out a trade similair to what NY and SD did last year..

 

I do have Miami taking Smith though in my mock draft, because I kinda felt this was gonna happen..

 

Unlike some of the pundits, I think that Smith is the top QB in the draft. Not only did he win with mediocre talent around him at Utah and put up an incredible show at the Combine, but he did very well academically in college and had like a 39 on the Wunderlic test. You can't go wrong with that combination of talent and intelligence at the QB position.

[T R U]

Unlike some of the pundits, I think that Smith is the top QB in the draft.  Not only did he win with mediocre talent around him at Utah and put up an incredible show at the Combine, but he did very well academically in college and had like a 39 on the Wunderlic test.  You can't go wrong with that combination of talent and intelligence at the QB position.

 

You are very correct, he is a very smart player and an athlete.. I would love for him to be on the Dolphins but if we can get 4 picks for him, hell, I would do that trade..

[TheBigHurt35]

You are very correct, he is a very smart player and an athlete.. I would love for him to be on the Dolphins but if we can get 4 picks for him, hell, I would do that trade..

 

FOUR picks? Boy, Gruden must not have much confidence in Griese or Simms.

[knightni]

If Edwards goes to SF and Smith goes to Mia, Cle will take Rodgers.

 

That leaves Brown AND Williams as choices by the Bears.

 

WOW.

[T R U]

FOUR picks?  Boy, Gruden must not have much confidence in Griese or Simms.

 

Yeah 4 picks.... to move up to the #2 spot it would require TB's #1 and either their number one next year and a 2/3 round pick or their #1 this year a 2nd and 2 3rds

 

It all has to do with the Value chart... TB has like 15 picks as it is so if they want Smith bad enough it will get done

 

EDIT: OK technically 3 picks, because they would be swapping firsts

Edited April 15, 2005 by T R U

[T R U]

If Edwards goes to SF and Smith goes to Mia, Cle will take Rodgers.

 

That leaves Brown AND Williams as choices by the Bears.

 

WOW.

 

SF has already begun negotiating with Rodgers and so far everything seems like he will be there man, they are really high on Rodgers from what I have heard

[T R U]

[Miami Herald] The Dolphins are focused on drafting Utah quarterback Alex Smith with the second overall pick, but Miami also is in discussions with at least one team about trading that selection.

 

One source said Thursday that head coach Nick Saban has decided Smith would be the best pick for Miami at No. 2, assuming California quarterback Aaron Rodgers is drafted by San Francisco.

 

But two league sources also confirmed the Dolphins and Tampa Bay Buccaneers have discussed a possible trade involving both teams' first-round selections and other considerations.

 

The Bucs, who pick fifth overall, are apparently equally enamored with the idea of selecting Smith at No. 2. Tampa Bay's brain trust decided last weekend Smith is a better prospect than Rodgers.

 

The Bucs' interest became more serious Thursday after it seemed likely the 49ers will take Rodgers, leaving Smith available. The 49ers had contract discussions with agent Mike Sullivan, who represents Rodgers, on Wednesday, and the discussions reportedly laid a positive foundation for a deal.

 

Tom Condon, who represents Smith, was scheduled to fly to San Francisco on Thursday to try to lay a similar foundation for his client, but the league sources say that session doesn't offer the same prospect for success as the one with Rodgers' agent.

 

Assuming that scenario holds, the Bucs want to move up. But the price, as with all such trades, would be the subject of intense negotiations.

 

The Dolphins, like all other NFL teams, have a trade-value chart that outlines the price for trading draft picks. Saban said two weeks ago he would ''absolutely'' go by that chart in deciding the value of a trade.

And according to most such charts, Tampa Bay would have to give up its first, second and third-round picks this year to move up three slots to Miami's spot. The teams also might discuss exchanging draft picks next year should the Bucs balk at making the three-for-one deal now.

 

The Dolphins also are going to try to involve other teams in the bidding process to drive up the price of a trade, although it is unclear whether any other team has stepped forward.

 

So what if that all fails?

 

Smith, who visited with Saban and other team staffers Wednesday and Thursday, according to Condon, is the apparent choice.

Edited April 15, 2005 by T R U

[GoodAsGould]

Tampa has Griese who played well for them last year i dont know why they would do this when its obvious their biggest hole is at RB.

[T R U]

Tampa has Griese who played well for them last year i dont know why they would do this when its obvious their biggest hole is at RB.

 

When a team falls in love with someone, they are after that guy...

 

Griese is not a franchise QB and the rule usually is, if you dont have a Franchise QB and you can get one, you do it

[Chisoxfn]

Looks to me like the Bears will get either Braylon or Ronnie Brown, whichever Cleveland passes up. Tampa or Miami will nab Smith and SF Rodgers.

 

Looking good for the Bears. Personally I think the Bears want either Braylon or Ronnie.

[AddisonStSox]

Looks to me like the Bears will get either Braylon or Ronnie Brown, whichever Cleveland passes up.  Tampa or Miami will nab Smith and SF Rodgers.

 

Looking good for the Bears.  Personally I think the Bears want either Braylon or Ronnie.

 

^^^^^

[jackie hayes]

Looks to me like the Bears will get either Braylon or Ronnie Brown, whichever Cleveland passes up.

...or whoever Cleveland trades w/. The Browns look like a good candidate to trade down.

 

Is anyone expecting a quiet draft? There's so much uncertainty at the top, I'd guess there're going to be a lot of swaps on draft day or just before.

[T R U]

...or whoever Cleveland trades w/.  The Browns look like a good candidate to trade down.

 

Is anyone expecting a quiet draft?  There's so much uncertainty at the top, I'd guess there're going to be a lot of swaps on draft day or just before.

 

From what I have heard teams really arent wanting to trade down, except Tampa Bay is the only known to come out..

 

And Miami is who they want to trade with, thats the only way they can guarantee themselves Smith.. thats IF SF takes Rodgers, which Im pretty sure they will

[jackie hayes]

From what I have heard teams really arent wanting to trade down, except Tampa Bay is the only known to come out..

 

And Miami is who they want to trade with, thats the only way they can guarantee themselves Smith.. thats IF SF takes Rodgers, which Im pretty sure they will

The only way I see Cleveland wanting to stay at #3 is if Alex Smith is there. (Even then I'm not sure.) Otherwise, there're just too many holes on that team. Plus, new GM, new coach, and I'm betting that pick gets swapped.

[T R U]

The only way I see Cleveland wanting to stay at #3 is if Alex Smith is there.  (Even then I'm not sure.)  Otherwise, there're just too many holes on that team.  Plus, new GM, new coach, and I'm betting that pick gets swapped.

 

Cleveland cant just up and say, hey, lets trade out of the #3 spot... someone will want to have to trade down before they can do that... and with Tampa in a potential trade to take Smith I dont really see who else would wanna move to #3 in fear of missing out on someone right now..

[jackie hayes]

Cleveland cant just up and say, hey, lets trade out of the #3 spot... someone will want to have to trade down before they can do that... and with Tampa in a potential trade to take Smith I dont really see who else would wanna move to #3 in fear of missing out on someone right now..

No, I know they can't do it themselves. I'd have to look at one of the value charts to see if it is realistic for any team to move up. It just seems that some teams really, really love Edwards or Brown (Edwards especially), while Cleveland may not be very interested in him there.

[AddisonStSox]

To be honest: Braylon Edwards is the only guy in this draft worth trading up for.

 

He is going to be a staple in this league for years to come. He's passed up Mike Williams on a lot of boards just because he is so polished. It'll be real interesting to see who is willing to give up a ton for a shot at him.

[Chisoxfn]

No, I know they can't do it themselves.  I'd have to look at one of the value charts to see if it is realistic for any team to move up.  It just seems that some teams really, really love Edwards or Brown (Edwards especially), while Cleveland may not be very interested in him there.

Thats the problem. Teams don't want to move up. Tampa is the only team that wants to and there are some rumors the Titans could be interested as well. Bottom line, the Bears would probably move down as well, but no teams are willing to give much anything worthwhile to move up, simply because this is a draft that has talent all over and at the top of the draft you could argue the talent isn't necessarily superior or at least it isn't when compared to previous drafts.

[T R U]

Thats the problem.  Teams don't want to move up.  Tampa is the only team that wants to and there are some rumors the Titans could be interested as well.  Bottom line, the Bears would probably move down as well, but no teams are willing to give much anything worthwhile to move up, simply because this is a draft that has talent all over and at the top of the draft you could argue the talent isn't necessarily superior or at least it isn't when compared to previous drafts.

 

Exactly.. The guy you get at #1 this year would be = to the guy you can get at #10

 

There are no clear cut picks, everyone is just about in the same talent range.. and as of right now, theres not really anyone looking to trade up.. Tampa is all I have heard