Jabroni Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Ive got Jon penciled in for 18 wins, I called it before the season I am sticking to it.. BTW I found another thing Garland said after the game, I dont know if I am the only one to see this or not but here it is... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> :finger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Apr 16, 2005 -> 11:19 PM) He wouldn't sign that. He's making the average of that in 2005, and he'll do better next year if he's merely league average again. That's a good point. I'd really like to see Kenny's "Big Board" right now, as far as our staff for next year. I can assure you that Buehrle, Garcia, and probably McCarthy are on it. And El Duque, most likely. If Contreras has a big season, Garland may not be with us in '06... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 16, 2005 -> 05:24 PM) That's a good point. I'd really like to see Kenny's "Big Board" right now, as far as our staff for next year. I can assure you that Buehrle, Garcia, and probably McCarthy are on it. And El Duque, most likely. If Contreras has a big season, Garland may not be with us in '06... This is just crazy talk... Garland will be better than El Duque this year I am almost positive on that.. Contreras will prolly be around 14 - 9 with an ERA in the 4's mostlikely.. They are both in their 30's yet we got a young guy like Garland who isnt making that much and is pitching worth what we are paying for him with a chance to have a big year this year.. Why would he be the man who is gone? Garland > Contreras and El Duque It would be a dumb move to commit to the other two instead of Garland, imo, based on age, price, and performance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 This is just crazy talk... Garland will be better than El Duque this year I am almost positive on that.. Contreras will prolly be around 14 - 9 with an ERA in the 4's mostlikely.. They are both in their 30's yet we got a young guy like Garland who isnt making that much and is pitching worth what we are paying for him with a chance to have a big year this year.. Why would he be the man who is gone? Garland > Contreras and El Duque It would be a dumb move to commit to the other two instead of Garland, imo, based on age, price, and performance <{POST_SNAPBACK}> El Duque is money in the post-season. Keep that in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 i trust garland more than contrares... i dont know why... plus i still feel garland has an upside - he's still young - whereas contrares is already what, 33 and el duque is a million... i mean thats not a whole lot of insurance long term... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 QUOTE(T R U @ Apr 16, 2005 -> 11:27 PM) This is just crazy talk... Garland will be better than El Duque this year I am almost positive on that.. Contreras will prolly be around 14 - 9 with an ERA in the 4's mostlikely.. They are both in their 30's yet we got a young guy like Garland who isnt making that much and is pitching worth what we are paying for him with a chance to have a big year this year.. Why would he be the man who is gone? Garland > Contreras and El Duque It would be a dumb move to commit to the other two instead of Garland, imo, based on age, price, and performance I'm saying that if he puts up a year like you have him pegged at -- then he's gonna get some good money in arbitration. I'm not saying it's a great move, but I can see the Sox being more committed to the vet in Hernandez rather than Garland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 16, 2005 -> 05:29 PM) I'm saying that if he puts up a year like you have him pegged at -- then he's gonna get some good money in arbitration. I'm not saying it's a great move, but I can see the Sox being more committed to the vet in Hernandez rather than Garland. Yeah but Hernandez isnt gonna have much left in his career.. I think locking up Garland long term would be the better commitment for the club but I do get what your saying about age.. And Jabroni, we need to get to the playoffs first before Hernandez means anything to us then not age, but veteren, my bad Edited April 16, 2005 by T R U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 (edited) We might commit Hernandez, but I don't see how we could commit to him. No matter what you think of the guy, he's on his last legs. He's in Satchel Paige territory. Contreras, we still don't know what we have there. We don't have a glut of young starters coming through the system, at least we haven't. (I know, last year's draft is promising, but still...) I'd really like to keep Jon, as long as he doesn't regress further. I'm scared of that black hole 5th starter happening again. Edit: Okay, exaggeration on the Satchel Paige bit. Well, I think... Edited April 16, 2005 by jackie hayes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 If you can get Gar signed to a 3 yr $16 mil contract plus incentives I'd do that now for sure. I not sure he'd sign that but it would be a fair contract for both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 I read more negative stuff in the threads about our players than i would ever read in the Cubune. Everyone's a critic. Crede sucks, Garland sucks, Willie sucks, Timo sucks, this guy sounded bad in an interview. Paulie's a jerk Shingo sucks. You're all like a bunch of whiny lil b****es. Nothing's ever good enough for ya. I'm ecstatic . The Sox are winning and pitching great. The glass is half full not half empty. Try to remember that next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 QUOTE(CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Apr 16, 2005 -> 11:55 PM) I read more negative stuff in the threads about our players than i would ever read in the Cubune. Everyone's a critic. Crede sucks, Garland sucks, Willie sucks, Timo sucks, this guy sounded bad in an interview. Paulie's a jerk Shingo sucks. You're all like a bunch of whiny lil b****es. Nothing's ever good enough for ya. I'm ecstatic . The Sox are winning and pitching great. The glass is half full not half empty. Try to remember that next time. Well I'm not taking that -- now YOU suck. How d'ya like them apples? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Apr 16, 2005 -> 04:58 PM) Well I'm not taking that -- now YOU suck. How d'ya like them apples? I love apples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 QUOTE(CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Apr 16, 2005 -> 06:00 PM) I love apples Just green ones though, them red ones are gross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted April 17, 2005 Author Share Posted April 17, 2005 QUOTE(CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Apr 16, 2005 -> 11:55 PM) I read more negative stuff in the threads about our players than i would ever read in the Cubune. Everyone's a critic. Crede sucks, Garland sucks, Willie sucks, Timo sucks, this guy sounded bad in an interview. Paulie's a jerk Shingo sucks. You're all like a bunch of whiny lil b****es. Nothing's ever good enough for ya. I'm ecstatic . The Sox are winning and pitching great. The glass is half full not half empty. Try to remember that next time. I guess it's not possible for a guy to pitch a good game and be a dick in a post game interview. I didn't crack on his pitching performance, just that he was a dick afterward. I'm ecstatic too by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spod=Ratings Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 QUOTE(T R U @ Apr 16, 2005 -> 06:01 PM) Just green ones though, them red ones are gross we finally disagree i like Red better.peaches are the best tho But Rocky IV still rocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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