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Thomas, Guillen set record straight


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QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Apr 19, 2005 -> 01:10 PM)
All players (especially when young) look at stats. That does not make them selfish. WHen you have the talent to have the gaudy stats like Thomas does, it can only help the team win. What he can do, only a few others can around baseball. While you need role players to win, you cannot win without talent. I guess Babe Ruth was selfish too since he called his own HR at Wrigley. Again, you are wrong.

 

 

Wow, did you even read any of that?

 

What part of...

 

Thomas did acknowledge being selfish early in his career

 

Is so difficult to understand???

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How great was the Babe?

 

Total Bases (career high, career avg):

01-Gehrig 447 high, 379 avg

02-Babe 457 high, 357 avg

03-Foxx 438 high, 347 avg

04-Williams 368, 345 avg

05-Aaron 400 high, 337 avg

06-Griffey 393 high, 335 avg

07-Sosa 425 high, 331 avg

08-Bonds 411 high, 331 avg

09-Musial 429 high, 328 avg

10-Mays 382 high, 328 avg

11-Thomas 364 high, 327 avg

12-Bagwell 363 high, 320 avg

McGuire 380 high, 315 avg

Canseco 347 high, 312 avg

Palmeiro 356 high, 311 avg

Robinson 383 high, 310 avg

Mantle 376 high, 304 avg

Banks 379 high, 302 avg

Ott 346 high, 299 avg

Schmidt 342 high, 297 avg

Matthews 363 high, 295 avg

Dawson 353 high, 295 avg

McGriff 306 high, 294 avg

Murray 322 high, 289 avg

Stargell 337 high, 288 avg

Winfield 333 high, 284 avg

Jackson 334 high, 278 avg

Killebrew 328 high, 276 avg

Yaz 360 high, 271 avg

Kingman 326 high, 266 avg

McCovey 322 high, 264 avg

 

Thomas currently ranks 31st on all-time HR list. Amongst the list of 31

he ranks 11th in career avg TB. He should move up to 27th on the all-time HR list this year. Sneaking up on the HOFer Dave Winfield.

 

Winfield is the barometer for both Frank & Bagwell.

career avg:

Thomas .308A .429O .567S (15 seasons)

Bagwell .297A .408O .542S (14 seasons)

Winfield .283A .353O .475S (22 seasons)

career high:

Bagwell .368A .454O .750S

Thomas .353A .487O .729S

Winfield .340A .398O .560S

 

Because Winfield is HOFer it's going to be very difficult for them to keep either Bagwell or Thomas out & not take a big hit in the HOF's credibility.

 

They both have good odds to finish in the top 20 HR all-time list.

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