KW moves paying off........

[YASNY]

I have to admit.. KW, is proving me wrong.. and I could not be happier.

 

Holy s***! I never thought I'd see a post like this.

[Wedge]

I was happy with the moves in the offseason. KW did a good job of getting the moves made, but I think the vision for the team really came from Ozzie. Thus, while KW did a good job of getting the players acquired, I think Ozzie was really the guy that had the vision for this year's club. As a benefit of the two of them, this is really a stronger team than last year.

[AnthraxFan93]

Holy s***!  I never thought I'd see a post like this. 

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Yansy, I stated before the season that if KW, proves me Wrong I am man enough to admit it.. SO Lets Win these 2 in Det, and 2/3 from KC...

 

IMO the hardest test is when we hit Oak, if we can somehow manage a series win, then this is a team on a mission.

[T R U]

Yansy, I stated before the season that if KW, proves me Wrong I am man enough to admit it.. SO Lets Win these 2 in Det, and 2/3 from KC...

 

IMO the hardest test is when we hit Oak, if we can somehow manage a series win, then this is a team on a mission.

 

I dunno, Oakland is not as scary as they have been in the past.. plus I like the way our team is built this year although sometimes they scare me with their low offensive production.. but the pitching has been there, and its been great..

 

Hey Nuke.. I wouldnt blame a tough start on Viz, he took one for the team in that ugly ugly game and if it wasnt for that he would have a pretty solid ERA right now..

 

He has been very good, along with everyone else, cept Dye.. but I think he will pick it up..

[YASNY]

Yansy, I stated before the season that if KW, proves me Wrong I am man enough to admit it.. SO Lets Win these 2 in Det, and 2/3 from KC...

 

IMO the hardest test is when we hit Oak, if we can somehow manage a series win, then this is a team on a mission.

 

Agreed.

[beck72]

I was seriously pissed that we didn't get Clement but so far it seems to be turning out for the better.  Lets see how things are later on in the season though before we pass final judgement cause it's still WAY early.

 

I agree it's to early to start "gloating" about signing El Duque. Yet any team who signs SP's to long term deals--Wright, Vazquez [by trade], Clement come to mind of those who interested the Sox--takes a huge risk. Contreras looks iffy. Yet Freddy and El Duque balance it out.

 

Hell, El Duque for two yrs costs what Wright and Clement do for only 1. Health will be the determining factor in who is the "best" deal. I like El Duque because he doesn't rely on his "stuff" to get outs--he gets outs mostly by knowing how to pitch

[AnthraxFan93]

I dunno, Oakland is not as scary as they have been in the past.. plus I like the way our team is built this year although sometimes they scare me with their low offensive production.. but the pitching has been there, and its been great..

 

Hey Nuke.. I wouldnt blame a tough start on Viz, he took one for the team in that ugly ugly game and if it wasnt for that he would have a pretty solid ERA right now..

 

He has been very good, along with everyone else, cept Dye.. but I think he will pick it up..

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For some reason we just can not figure out a way to win in Oakland.. If we can manage a series win there, that is a huge upgrade over last years team.

 

I also want to see how we play against the lesser teams such as DET and KC, IMO I could care less about sweeps with these teams but more with Series Wins.. THat to me is Key to the season. As I always say

 

Win Series and your Be in the Series..

[T R U]

For some reason we just can not figure out a way to win in Oakland.. If we can manage a series win there, that is a huge upgrade over last years team.

 

I also want to see how we play against the lesser teams such as DET and KC, IMO I could care less about sweeps with these teams but  more with Series Wins.. THat to me is Key to the season. As I always say

 

Win Series and your Be in the Series..

 

Most of the time I was worried about Oakland because I just thought, ah s***, the big 3

 

Well now 2 of them are gone and Zito doesnt really scare me like the other two did, hopefully we can end this west coast curse and get some solid wins out there

[ISF]

Wunsch would be better than Cotts, and the groin got himself thrown out at home for the 2nd time already this year, not to mention he's been sitting. Dye has been almost worthless.

 

Don't get me wrong, I like alot of what KW has done. But Carlos Lee will not be hitting .212 this year. The groin might well be hitting .241.

 

As long as we're winning, I'm happy. This is April though. I'll wait until mid-June before I decide who merits what praise.

[CanOfCorn]

Oakland's stadium is not a hitter's park, which is one reason why the Sox couldn't win there in past years. They are built more like Oakland (except for the OBP).

 

As for Pods getting thrown out at home twice...at least we are aggressive. There will be a few times where that run will score and it may mean the game. Cotts > Wunsch because he can spot start and actually pitch a WHOLE inning, unlike Wunsch who was a lefty specialist. Kenny made some good moves, Ozzie has this team playing like a team, and they will start hitting.

 

Every player goes through slumps, but speed, pitching and defense can pull a team through player's slumps. Effort wins.

[Guest JimH]

Wunsch would be better than Cotts

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Wunsch has 3 walks in 4 2/3 innings so far. That was the same problem he had with the White Sox - a maddening tendancy to walk guys.

 

I've said before it wouldn't surprise me if the Sox were looking to upgrade over Cotts but Kelly Wunsch wouldn't be an upgrade in my book.

[Rex Kickass]

Wunsch would be better than Cotts, and the groin got himself thrown out at home for the 2nd time already this year, not to mention he's been sitting. Dye has been almost worthless.

 

Don't get me wrong, I like alot of what KW has done. But Carlos Lee will not be hitting .212 this year. The groin might well be hitting .241.

 

As long as we're winning, I'm happy. This is April though. I'll wait until mid-June before I decide who merits what praise.

 

Agreed. 10-4 to start though, that ain't bad.

[RockRaines]

As for Pods getting thrown out at home twice...at least we are aggressive.  There will be a few times where that run will score and it may mean the game.  Cotts > Wunsch because he can spot start and actually pitch a WHOLE inning, unlike Wunsch who was a lefty specialist.  Kenny made some good moves, Ozzie has this team playing like a team, and they will start hitting. 

 

Every player goes through slumps, but speed, pitching and defense can pull a team through player's slumps.  Effort wins.

 

I agree with the fact that its good that they are pushing the pace. Does anyone know why the Angels are always so good. They push the pace of the game. Even if they are up by a few runs, someone is always trying to steal, or advance on a lazy throw. The key to this team is how aggressive we are going to be. I would rather have us being thrown out than not try at all. We need to make the pace of the game our own.

[AddisonStSox]

I have to admit.. KW, is proving me wrong.. and I could not be happier.

HOLD THE PHONE!!!

 

Atta' Boy! Kenny has looked sterling thus far and as you said, success against teams like the A's will really prove he put a winning club on the field.

 

Although, I can't remember the last time we came out of the gates whipping up on AL Central teams.

[ISF]

Wunsch has 3 walks in 4 2/3 innings so far.  That was the same problem he had with the White Sox - a maddening tendancy to walk guys.

 

Cotts has 5 walks in 3 2/3 IP.

 

As for Wunsch being a lefty specialist, that's quite alright with me, he always got the lefties out. Lefties have a .375 BAA and 1.000 OPS against Cotts.

 

Cotts is not mlb ready. He's been thrust into the lineup because we have no one else. He's a 2 pitch pitcher with little to no command. KW would do well to find a solid replacement for him by June.

[kane0730]

For some reason we just can not figure out a way to win in Oakland.. If we can manage a series win there, that is a huge upgrade over last years team.

 

I also want to see how we play against the lesser teams such as DET and KC, IMO I could care less about sweeps with these teams but  more with Series Wins.. THat to me is Key to the season. As I always say

 

Win Series and your Be in the Series..

 

 

Next week we face Zito and Rich Harden. Harden is easily in the top 10 in the AL

[Chisoxfn]

I dunno, Oakland is not as scary as they have been in the past.. plus I like the way our team is built this year although sometimes they scare me with their low offensive production.. but the pitching has been there, and its been great..

 

Hey Nuke.. I wouldnt blame a tough start on Viz, he took one for the team in that ugly ugly game and if it wasnt for that he would have a pretty solid ERA right now..

 

He has been very good, along with everyone else, cept Dye.. but I think he will pick it up..

Its more the fact the Sox will be out on the West Coast and the West Coast treats the Sox about as it did the Bulls in years past.

[JUGGERNAUT]

Summary of KW moves dating back to last year:

Garcia : plus

Contreras : plus

Everett : big plus

Lee trade (Keeping Crede, Koney, adding Viz, Pods) : plus

Hernandez: big plus

Hermy: big plus

AJ: big plus

Guch: big plus

Cotts: minus

Widger: plus

Davis: minus

Perez: plus

Dye vs Maggs: minus

Harris: plus

Ozuna: plus

Gload: plus

 

Dye is still expected to turn it around but Cotts & big Ben are next to useless & costing the team 1.4M. I agree that Cotts won't be up here much longer if he can't get people out. Is Davis doing anything trade worthy in AAA right now?

[Jabroni]

Dye vs Maggs: minus

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I disagree. Dye will most likely turn it around for us and he's not making much money. On the other hand, Magg$ is on the Tigers' DL for 6 weeks earning millions of dollars and he was 0 for 10 when he was actually playing. IMO, Kenny looks pretty good for not giving Magg$ $15 million a year now.

[Rex Kickass]

I'd have to agree here. Maggs is looking more and more like a boondoggle for the Ralph Wiggums of the AL Central.

[Jabroni]

I disagree.  Dye will most likely turn it around for us and he's not making much money.  On the other hand, Magg$ is on the Tigers' DL for 6 weeks earning millions of dollars and he was 0 for 10 when he was actually playing.  IMO, Kenny looks pretty good for not giving Magg$ $15 million a year now.

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Dye turned it around tonight. Magg$ now appears to not even have a hernia, which was his original diagnosis. He is probably just lying and it's really his knee that's bothering him. I will take Dye at $10.15 million for 2 years over Magg$ at a gazillion dollars for 7 years and currently on the DL.

 

Dye vs Maggs: plus!

[Wedge]

Dye turned it around tonight.  Magg$ now appears to not even have a hernia, which was his original diagnosis.  He is probably just lying and it's really his knee that's bothering him.  I will take Dye at $10.15 million for 2 years over Magg$ at a gazillion dollars for 7 years and currently on the DL.

 

Dye vs Maggs:  plus!

 

You don't turn it around in baseball in one night, otherwise Shaun Green would be a hall of famer player.

 

That said, Dye will definitely prove to be a better value than Maggs. He plays better defense and will put up offensive stats that are propotionally better than Maggs's when compared against salaries.

[ISF]

I didn't want Maggs back because he is not a 14 mil player, healthy or not. Certainly not on our budget anyway.

 

Dye at 5 mil is a very nice signing if he can put up 20+ HR, 80+ RBI and an avg around .280.

 

As for the Lee trade, you can't just lump AJP and Duque into that. They were nice signings, but the Lee trade itself is a minus in my book right now. If the groin has a year similar to 2 years ago and Vizcaino can be effective consistently, I may change my opinion of it.

 

I also don't see Davis as a minus. Davis gives us very good depth at C, something very few teams have. Too early to call Ozuna a plus.

 

Right now, our offseason overall looks very good. Let's hope it keeps looking that way.

[YASNY]

I didn't want Maggs back because he is not a 14 mil player, healthy or not. Certainly not on our budget anyway.

 

Dye at 5 mil is a very nice signing if he can put up 20+ HR, 80+ RBI and an avg around .280.

 

As for the Lee trade, you can't just lump AJP and Duque into that. They were nice signings, but the Lee trade itself is a minus in my book right now. If the groin has a year similar to 2 years ago and Vizcaino can be effective consistently, I may change my opinion of it.

 

I also don't see Davis as a minus. Davis gives us very good depth at C, something very few teams have. Too early to call Ozuna a plus.

 

Right now, our offseason overall looks very good. Let's hope it keeps looking that way.

 

You can lump them into that deal. Without the trade, those signings don't happen.

[southsider2k5]

I didn't want Maggs back because he is not a 14 mil player, healthy or not. Certainly not on our budget anyway.

As for the Lee trade, you can't just lump AJP and Duque into that. They were nice signings, but the Lee trade itself is a minus in my book right now. If the groin has a year similar to 2 years ago and Vizcaino can be effective consistently, I may change my opinion of it.

 

Why can't you lump them together? The only reason we could sign those two players was because of the money we saved from the Carlos Lee trade. If there is no trade, there is no AJ or Hernandez. The three things are linked at the hip.