Mrocks24 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Has anyone read this article that he put up on espn.com. I'm sure he doesn't know what he is talking about because he pays no attention to the sox and now he is an expert on our bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 White Sox mixing and matching closers It's been a rough month for closers, from Mariano Rivera's problems against Boston to Trevor Hoffman's opening day loss to Mike Adams's blown save against the Dodgers Tuesday in Milwaukee. We can't be surprised, then, that the team with the best record in the American League doesn't have a one-size-fits-all closer early in the season. The Chicago White Sox are 13 games into the season and already Ozzie Guillen, their manager, has had three different relievers save games for him, including left-hander Damaso Marte, who got the last two outs in the 3-1 victory over Minnesota Tuesday night. Shingo Takatsu, the Chicago closer at the end of last season, is off to a terrible start, having allowed four homers and eight hits in 3 2/3 innings, while somehow managing to convert four of his five save chances. As a result, Guillen has been mixing and matching, and on different days, different guys have been on the mound at the end. Dustin Hermanson, pitching very well early, has two saves; Marte's save was his first. I didn't watch Tuesday's game, but in reviewing the play-by-play, Guillen's willingness to make adjustments is evident. After Luis Vizcaino pitched a scoreless seventh and Hermanson did the same in the ninth, and with the White Sox leading, 3-0, Guillen sent the right-handed Takatsu out to work the ninth. The Twins had switch-hitting Nick Punto due to lead off, with the right-handed hitting Shannon Stewart and Jason Bartlett scheduled to follow. Punto grounded out, but Stewart doubled. Matt LeCroy pinch-hit for Bartlett and singled, driving home Stewart. The left-handed Joe Mauer was due to hit. That was it for Takatsu; the left-handed Marte was summoned. Mauer popped out, Terry Tiffee grounded out. Ballgame, with Orlando Hernandez getting the victory. The White Sox are the only team with a double-digit victory total, and they've got a bullpen ERA of 5.08. Maybe that's the way it's going to be this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 there ya go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 I expect the Sox pen to have an ERA of about 3.20 this season. That 5.08 is VERY misleading, with Viz getting knocked around the Clevland mess, and I would that Shingo can at least get a 4.00 ERA this season. I have big, big hopes for Viz and the rest of the pen. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Can someone who is "geek" enough figure out what the ERA would be without Luis Cleveland outing? Be intrested in knowing.. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Apr 20, 2005 -> 12:47 PM) Can someone who is "geek" enough figure out what the ERA would be without Luis Cleveland outing? Be intrested in knowing.. Thanks If you subtract out the whole outing against Cleveland by Vizcaino the pen ERA is 3.77. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 QUOTE(Mrocks24 @ Apr 20, 2005 -> 05:22 PM) Has anyone read this article that he put up on espn.com. I'm sure he doesn't know what he is talking about because he pays no attention to the sox and now he is an expert on our bullpen. His synopsis is correct, why do you think he doesn't know anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 QUOTE(quickman @ Apr 20, 2005 -> 12:11 PM) His synopsis is correct, why do you think he doesn't know anything? Well, I wasn't aware that Orlando Hernandez got the win last night, for starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 QUOTE(Al Lopez's Ghost @ Apr 20, 2005 -> 01:07 PM) Well, I wasn't aware that Orlando Hernandez got the win last night, for starters. He did get the win, I don't understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Well, I wasn't aware that Orlando Hernandez got the win last night, for starters. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 QUOTE(Al Lopez's Ghost @ Apr 20, 2005 -> 02:07 PM) Well, I wasn't aware that Orlando Hernandez got the win last night, for starters. JimH--> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 QUOTE(Al Lopez's Ghost @ Apr 20, 2005 -> 07:07 PM) Well, I wasn't aware that Orlando Hernandez got the win last night, for starters. Are you sure your not actually the ghost of Al lopez? Sorry couldn't resist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Apr 20, 2005 -> 07:21 PM) JimH--> Where did you find that emoticon? I want it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 (edited) Where did you find that emoticon? I want it! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> http://deephousepage.com/smilies/ Edited April 20, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Buster is a buster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrocks24 Posted April 20, 2005 Author Share Posted April 20, 2005 Buster is a bum, he creams over the yankees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 20, 2005 -> 10:37 PM) http://deephousepage.com/smilies/ Thanks Much now I will go crazy with these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 If you are read or seen in two or more states then you don't know as much about baseball or anything as people around here? Didn't you know that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrocks24 Posted April 21, 2005 Author Share Posted April 21, 2005 QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Apr 20, 2005 -> 06:33 PM) If you are read or seen in two or more states then you don't know as much about baseball or anything as people around here? Didn't you know that? What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 I was just being sarcastic about people's hatred of the national media around here. I always find it annoying and try to point that out as long as the soxtalk people will have me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 QUOTE(Leonard Zelig @ Apr 20, 2005 -> 01:13 PM) He did get the win, I don't understand. You know, sometimes you type something that's so wrong. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Apr 20, 2005 -> 12:29 PM) I didn't watch Tuesday's game, but in reviewing the play-by-play, Guillen's willingness to make adjustments is evident. Excellent journalism... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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