Be Good Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 I always hear of "The Curse of the Billy Goat" but never what exactly it was. Untill today when a new student in class told me he was a Cubs fan, which isn't very common in NY. He said that that last time the Cubs were in the Series (1947 I think he said) that a fan wanted to bring his goat to promote his bar "Billy Goat Tavern". When the Cubs didn't let him in with the goat he cursed the team (some greek curse) that they would never win a world series or get to one. I just thought it was pretty intresting. I was searching for web pages on this but couldn't find anything good, and was wondering if anyone knows if there is any web pages on this? Also he said, which I thought was total BS: Cubs fans dont hate the White Sox . Only White Sox fans hate the Cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 Actually I'd say more White Sox fans hate Cubs fans. Hell most Cub fans I know really don't care about the Sox and to be honest I really don't care much about the Cubs either. The only reason I don't want them to win it all is simply because they share the town with Chicago and it would be bad in the sense the Sox would never draw and they would get hurt in attendance which is what helps them at least have a decent payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 Anyone that honestly believe their team is cursed by a goat should go jump off a cliff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 Just to clarify, the Cubs were last in the World Series in 1945--they played the Tigers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 QUOTE(farmteam @ Apr 22, 2005 -> 04:48 PM) Just to clarify, the Cubs were last in the World Series in 1945--they played the Tigers. The only reason for that was that all the good players were off fighting the war. These were basically a bunch of replacements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 22, 2005 -> 04:14 PM) Anyone that honestly believe their team is cursed by a goat should go jump off a cliff. [thread hijack] Lol! I did that in a dream last night...actually I drove off the cliff (I was driving down a street when the street just ended without warning) and then floated around for awhile. [/thread hijack] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Apr 23, 2005 -> 08:59 AM) [thread hijack] Lol! I did that in a dream last night...actually I drove off the cliff (I was driving down a street when the street just ended without warning) and then floated around for awhile. [/thread hijack] Falling dreams=scary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 23, 2005 -> 09:47 AM) Falling dreams=scary Landing dreams are scarier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 I think its bulls*** because the billy goat tavern has long been a cubs fans hangout, so why would the owner curse the team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Apr 25, 2005 -> 10:48 AM) I think its bulls*** because the billy goat tavern has long been a cubs fans hangout, so why would the owner curse the team? It's not bulls***. It happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 I think its bulls*** because the billy goat tavern has long been a cubs fans hangout, so why would the owner curse the team? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The original Billy Goat Tavern was located on West Madison St., across the street from the Chicago Stadium and about 1/2 block west. It sat exactly where the United Center is now. It moved to the N. Michigan location in 1963. My dad went there a lot in the 50's and early 60's, he said it was a Blackhawk fan hangout and actually leaned more to the White Sox. Sam Siannis, the original owner, wanted to bring the goat in for some pregame festivity at the '45 WS and thought he had something arranged with the media/PR people. He got turned away, got pissed off, and hence the "curse". Which, by the way, he supposedly "reversed" in whatever year it was ... '89 or '98 or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Apr 25, 2005 -> 11:38 AM) The original Billy Goat Tavern was located on West Madison St., across the street from the Chicago Stadium and about 1/2 block west. It sat exactly where the United Center is now. It moved to the N. Michigan location in 1963. My dad went there a lot in the 50's and early 60's, he said it was a Blackhawk fan hangout and actually leaned more to the White Sox. Sam Siannis, the original owner, wanted to bring the goat in for some pregame festivity at the '45 WS and thought he had something arranged with the media/PR people. He got turned away, got pissed off, and hence the "curse". Which, by the way, he supposedly "reversed" in whatever year it was ... '89 or '98 or something. Oh, they run a goat through there every few years to try to erase the "curse". I guess now they're going to have to feed some baseball spaghetti to a goat now or some s***.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 QUOTE(The Critic @ Apr 25, 2005 -> 01:25 PM) Oh, they run a goat through there every few years to try to erase the "curse". I guess now they're going to have to feed some baseball spaghetti to a goat now or some s***.... I wonder what they do with that goat the rest of the time??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 25, 2005 -> 11:13 AM) It's not bulls***. It happened. I meant the curse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Apr 25, 2005 -> 11:38 AM) The original Billy Goat Tavern was located on West Madison St., across the street from the Chicago Stadium and about 1/2 block west. It sat exactly where the United Center is now. It moved to the N. Michigan location in 1963. My dad went there a lot in the 50's and early 60's, he said it was a Blackhawk fan hangout and actually leaned more to the White Sox. Sam Siannis, the original owner, wanted to bring the goat in for some pregame festivity at the '45 WS and thought he had something arranged with the media/PR people. He got turned away, got pissed off, and hence the "curse". Which, by the way, he supposedly "reversed" in whatever year it was ... '89 or '98 or something. there is still a billygoat tevern at ashland and madison, down the street from where it was before. I know it was a big blackhawks hangout, but they appear to lean more towards the cubs these days. Overrated burgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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