WHarris1 Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Apr 24, 2005 -> 12:17 PM) Did Losman go to Clemson? For some reason I thought he went somewhere else. Tulane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Apr 24, 2005 -> 05:17 PM) Did Losman go to Clemson? For some reason I thought he went somewhere else. Tulane for Losman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Losman went to Tulane with Roydell Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 24, 2005 -> 09:18 AM) Tulane for Losman Cool I knew it wasn't Clemson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Orlovsky goes to the Lions. So much for the rumors that they loved McPherson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 There are a handful of QB's more talented than Orton that went after him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 QUOTE(3E8 @ Apr 24, 2005 -> 11:26 AM) There are a handful of QB's more talented than Orton that went after him. Yeah I didnt like the Orton pick.. I think Orlovski would have been a better choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 QUOTE(T R U @ Apr 24, 2005 -> 11:27 AM) Yeah I didnt like the Orton pick.. I think Orlovski would have been a better choice Or LaFors for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 QUOTE(3E8 @ Apr 24, 2005 -> 05:26 PM) There are a handful of QB's more talented than Orton that went after him. Orton sucks. He has absolutely no upside, and I'm not sure he's any better than Krenzel (which is almost impossible to believe). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 ORton has a very strong arm and has been a cold weather player. He plays in a wide open offense and only threw 5 interceptions. He did a nice job reading defenses and is 1000 times the player Krenzel ever was (if were talking about offensive abilities). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Orton has a much better arm than Krenzel.... I personally would of liked us to take a chance and go and get Adrian McPherson.... but oh well, when have we been known to take risks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Agree 101, McPherson was the lone QB on the board who I had rated higher than Orton in terms of pro potential. Problem with McPherson is I can't look past his gambling problems. He definately appears to have his head on straight now though and he's as good of tools as any qb in the draft, imo (although I happen to really like Alex Smith). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Orton was a product of Purdue's offense. In games where the opposition took away the short pass, he was bad. I just think that in the 4th round, you should pick guys who can develop into big time players, and not be likely career back-ups. A guy like McPherson would have given us another dimension. I would have much rather seen Mike Williams, J.J. Arrington, and McPherson instead of Benson, Bradley, and Orton. The Currie pick has been our best value pick so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Adrian to the Saints. He will learn under Aaron Brooks, thats a pretty good comparison for his game also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 McPherson is basically a Brooks clone. A great potential pick by the Saints there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 I've yet to find a site list Orlovsky over Orton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Could money have been a factor as far as picking Orton over McPherson? Is the NFL draft and signing picks basically, where you go, you'll get that type of money. Or is it more like the baseball draft, where, if you have a crazy enough agent (ehem, Boras), you could get a lot of money no matter where you're picked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 I believe the signing price and bonus are set for each round and selection. But occasionally a team can add a little more if its a special selection like Adrian or someone who is choosing between baseball and football. I could be wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 24, 2005 -> 05:49 PM) Could money have been a factor as far as picking Orton over McPherson? Is the NFL draft and signing picks basically, where you go, you'll get that type of money. Or is it more like the baseball draft, where, if you have a crazy enough agent (ehem, Boras), you could get a lot of money no matter where you're picked? There's no rigid slotting, but b/c of the cap-within-a-cap for your draft picks, there's not much leeway. I doubt the choice had anything to do with money, I think the Bears (along with basically the entire NFL) were scared away by his past. I don't know much about him, but from what I've read I'm beginning to like the Orton pick... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 I am absolutely shocked Gerald Sensabaugh is falling this far. This is a safety at 6' 1/2 210 pounds, 4.46 40, 46 inch vertical leap and a very solid tackler. His coverage skills need some refinement because UNC had no pass rush in his year here, but he's an absolute diamond in the rough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Apr 24, 2005 -> 11:55 AM) I am absolutely shocked Gerald Sensabaugh is falling this far. This is a safety at 6' 1/2 210 pounds, 4.46 40, 46 inch vertical leap and a very solid tackler. His coverage skills need some refinement because UNC had no pass rush in his year here, but he's an absolute diamond in the rough. was he one of the guys smoking weed at the combines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Also, I love reading experts talking about these prospects, it makes me feel better that I can't remember anything about them. So far today I've seen a Robert Mathis, wr and Mark Rix, qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 (edited) There you go palehose, JAX just grabbed your boy. Edited April 24, 2005 by WHarris1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 No he wasn't Murcie. Congrats to Jacksonville, they got a good one. Now I can stop my whining . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Isn't Berlin on the WR depth chart as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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