YASNY Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Apr 26, 2005 -> 07:43 AM) I would guess the answer to most of those questions is yes. Ozzie has no problems saying what is on his mind to anyone. People have a tendency to assume something didn't happen if it was never reported in the press. I'd bet Ozzie and Coop talk to Olivo about his game calling skills, or lack thereof, many times. I know KW and Ozzie talked to Lee about what they expected from him, as that was reported in the press shortly after the Hunter/Burke game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 26, 2005 -> 08:00 AM) People have a tendency to assume something didn't happen if it was never reported in the press. I'd bet Ozzie and Coop talk to Olivo about his game calling skills, or lack thereof, many times. I know KW and Ozzie talked to Lee about what they expected from him, as that was reported in the press shortly after the Hunter/Burke game. The fact that Olivo balled like a little kid and was in total shock when he was traded would indicate to me Ozzie hadn't told him about pitchers not wanting to throw to him. If I or anyone was a catcher who pitchers didn't want to throw to, I would not be shocked if I was traded, nor would I be sad about it. Concerning Lee, KW had mentioned many times how they stroked Carlos, telling him he was a great fielder etc. Ozzie popping off at Soxfest about Lee going into second base, but of course, not mentioning him by name was a cheap shot. His vulgar language and personal threats to Magglio is just wrong,especially to an organization trying to promote a family type atmosphere. That kind of talk is going to attract the kind of scum that hop on the field and try to bust up umpires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 I hate to tell you, but that scum is at ALL sporting events. They are the type of people that don't even pay attention to the game, much less what the manager is saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Apr 26, 2005 -> 09:45 AM) The fact that Olivo balled like a little kid and was in total shock when he was traded would indicate to me Ozzie hadn't told him about pitchers not wanting to throw to him. If I or anyone was a catcher who pitchers didn't want to throw to, I would not be shocked if I was traded, nor would I be sad about it. Concerning Lee, KW had mentioned many times how they stroked Carlos, telling him he was a great fielder etc. Ozzie popping off at Soxfest about Lee going into second base, but of course, not mentioning him by name was a cheap shot. His vulgar language and personal threats to Magglio is just wrong,especially to an organization trying to promote a family type atmosphere. That kind of talk is going to attract the kind of scum that hop on the field and try to bust up umpires. Olivo probably wasn't told that the pitchers didn't want to throw to him, but I'd bet he was talked to about his game calling on numerous occasions. As for him "balling" when traded, he didn't want to be traded. What's that got to do with this issue? Nothing, that's what. As for Lee, if Ozzie would have named him would that have been better in your esteemed opinion. And Magglio, he's brought this s*** upon himself. He's a whiny little b**** that can't shut the f*** up and Ozzie let him have it. Good for Ozzie I say. Edited April 26, 2005 by YASNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 26, 2005 -> 08:51 AM) Olivo probably wasn't told that the pitchers didn't want to throw to him, but I'd bet he was talked to about his game calling on numerous occasions. As for him "balling" when traded, he didn't want to be traded. What's that got to do with this issue? Nothing, that's what. As for Lee, if Ozzie would have named him would that have been better in your esteemed opinion. And Magglio, he's brought this s*** upon himself. He's a whiny little b**** that can't shut the f*** up and Ozzie let him have it. Good for Ozzie I say. Why can't Ozzie call the game from the dugout? A lot of teams have the pitches called by someone in the dugout. The fact that he was balling shows he didn't want to leave even though he apparently wasn't wanted, at least by the pitching staff. If pitchers didn't want to throw to him, and he was told this, he wouldn't have been upset being told he was going someplace else. Ozzie has to bring this up a year after the guy is dealt. Why? It would have been better if Ozzie mentioned Lee by name, because he is supposed to be a straight shooter, and he has no problem mentioning everyone else by name. You lost all credibility with the end of your reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Apr 26, 2005 -> 10:05 AM) Why can't Ozzie call the game from the dugout? A lot of teams have the pitches called by someone in the dugout. The fact that he was balling shows he didn't want to leave even though he apparently wasn't wanted, at least by the pitching staff. If pitchers didn't want to throw to him, and he was told this, he wouldn't have been upset being told he was going someplace else. Ozzie has to bring this up a year after the guy is dealt. Why? It would have been better if Ozzie mentioned Lee by name, because he is supposed to be a straight shooter, and he has no problem mentioning everyone else by name. You lost all credibility with the end of your reply. Ok ... My credibility is shot because you say so. :rolly One other thing ..... :fyou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 26, 2005 -> 09:06 AM) Ok ... My credibility is shot because you say so. :rolly One other thing ..... :fyou You're a moderator and that's how you reply? Grow up. Edited April 26, 2005 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Apr 26, 2005 -> 10:07 AM) You are a dope. Because he doesn't share your opinion and thinks Ozzie's fire is a good thing..?? Good grief.. I think Ozzie should keep his trap shut but I'm not going to go s***ting on others because I don't agree with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Apr 26, 2005 -> 09:09 AM) Because he doesn't share your opinion and thinks Ozzie's fire is a good thing..?? Good grief.. I think Ozzie should keep his trap shut but I'm not going to go s***ting on others because I don't agree with them. No, for his reply giving me the finger, plus using the same vulgar language his idol Ozzie uses. I answered all his questions in his reply to me, but then he had to go name calling, losing all his credibility with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Apr 26, 2005 -> 10:12 AM) No, for his reply giving me the finger, plus using the same vulgar language his idol Ozzie uses. I answered all his questions in his reply to me, but then he had to go name calling, losing all his credibility with me. The end of his reply was "Good for Ozzie I say". And was before he gave you the finger.. and he called you a name.. where..?? Yea.. I'm stirring... because this s*** is just plain stupid. Arguing about Ozzie's big mouth.. good Lord people.. we're winning and some of you are hard over some bulls*** comments. Sounds more like some of you are fans of controversy versus fans of the Sox. No need to reply DA. Like I said.. I was just stirring to make my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Apr 26, 2005 -> 10:12 AM) No, for his reply giving me the finger, plus using the same vulgar language his idol Ozzie uses. I answered all his questions in his reply to me, but then he had to go name calling, losing all his credibility with me. You're the one that questioned my credibility. A good old fashioned :fyou is all you deserved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Apr 26, 2005 -> 10:12 AM) No, for his reply giving me the finger, plus using the same vulgar language his idol Ozzie uses. I answered all his questions in his reply to me, but then he had to go name calling, losing all his credibility with me. Just exactly what name did I call you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 26, 2005 -> 09:20 AM) Just exactly what name did I call you? I never said you called me a name. You referred to Magglio as a"whiny little b**** who can't shut the f*** up." That was the name calling I was referring to. Using phrases like that doesn't do anything for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 All this whining does nothing for me... "Mommy.. Timmy said the "f word..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Apr 26, 2005 -> 10:26 AM) I never said you called me a name. You referred to Magglio as a"whiny little b**** who can't shut the f*** up." That was the name calling I was referring to. Using phrases like that doesn't do anything for me. You are under the mistaken impression that I care if I impress you. I'm not real worried about impressing someone that doesn't know the difference between "balling" and "bawling". Edited April 26, 2005 by YASNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 26, 2005 -> 09:28 AM) You are under the mistaken impression that I care if I impress you. I'm not real worried about impressing someone that doesn't know the difference between "balling" and "bawling". Spelling is not one of my strong suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Enough of this. I'm done. Have a good day Mr. Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yossarian Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Wow. What happened? I think Ozzie should save his fiery attitude for inspiring the troops and should avoid going ballistic when a former player who's career has fallen off a cliff calls him out. Ozzie is like a live grenade at times. For those of you who agree with me , for those of you who disagree ................ same to you . I'm pretty easy to get along with. Keep the good karma and the wins coming. Like the 84 Tigers, coast to coast, start to finish winners let's be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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