False Alarm Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Apr 25, 2005 -> 10:09 PM) The quality of the '03 Kansas s***ty staff was laughable. It doesn't surprise me that their one good month was a head fake for what was to come. agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Was the 2003 KC team amongst the league leaders in intangibles, pitching, & defense in those early months? I don't think so. The 2005 White Sox are. The 2005 Sox are avg'g 3.37RA/gm. That would put them at 81RA to finish Apr. The 2005 Sox are avg's 4.53RS/gm. That would put them at 109RS to finish Apr. 109RS, 81RA vs 122RS, 95RA. They were 12% better than us at RS, & we are 17% better than they were at RA. Our greater strength in run prevention outweighs their strength at scoring runs. They finished Apr 16-7. We are likely to finish Apr 18-6 (.750W%). We're a better team than the 2003 KC team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Actually Rock, you have made me come to a conclusion. We are actually the complete opposite of the '03 Royals. We have virtually nothing in common. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 I, for one, think this white sox team is one of the most solid teams in the majors. We all know that. In the back of the mind, I do realize this can't last, but also realize a few lossed aren't going to hurt us. I love this team.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Jesus Christ, even I didn't parallel the '05 Sox with '03 Royals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Apr 25, 2005 -> 05:23 PM) Jesus Christ, even I didn't parallel the '05 Sox with '03 Royals... I think you know better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Apr 25, 2005 -> 11:24 PM) I think you know better. LMAO. I know that we're better then 2003 KC. Hell, ESPN still has a hard on for that team two years later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Apr 25, 2005 -> 05:25 PM) LMAO. I know that we're better then 2003 KC. Hell, ESPN still has a hard on for that team two years later. Like any other impotent asshole that hard on doesn't last very long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRKARNO Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 There is no legit comparison. They owned with RISP. We suck so far. Their pitching staff was trash. Ours is a helluva lot better. I'd take our lineup over theirs as well. The only similarity is wins and losses through the first month of the season and you could argue that we're pretty similar to teh 2001 M's as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Apr 25, 2005 -> 03:44 PM) I have been thinking about our great start to this season and the negative reaction from sporting press. Many observers are linking our team to the 2003 KC Royals and their great start and 3rd place finish. Over achieving by the pitching staff, and lucky 1-run wins. Many people on this board are wondering if our numbers are going to come back to earth as well, especially when we have to face tough opponents in august etc. KC win/loss splits Month by Month Split W L RS RA WP March 1 0 3 0 1.000 April 16 7 122 95 0.696 May 10 19 131 177 0.345 June 15 12 155 160 0.556 July 15 11 136 125 0.577 August 13 15 146 155 0.464 September 13 15 143 155 0.464 Our April is starting to look alot like KC. Longest Winning Streak: 9 (March 31 to April 12) Lets all hope this is not the case, but what do you think? A better parrallel is the 2000 team. Right time, right place, and a favorable schedule to run out to a big lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierSox Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 This thread sucks. Cant we just enjoy it while they are playing great baseball. This team is way better than the 03 Royals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Gimme a break...how many guys had career years for the Royals that year??? Quite a few. Last I looked the Royals came out of nowhere that year as well. The Sox have had a strong nucleus for some time, made some changes and have regrouped. You can also look at the offense which has underachieved. This is just a terrible comparison and people can believe whatever they want, but if the Sox are healthy, they will play good baseball and they will make the playoffs. Oh ya that Royals team didn't have anywhere near the pitching staff the Sox have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Apr 25, 2005 -> 06:49 PM) Gimme a break...how many guys had career years for the Royals that year??? Quite a few. LOL And they still blew. That's the funniest part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Apr 25, 2005 -> 07:49 PM) Oh ya that Royals team didn't have anywhere near the pitching staff the Sox have. My point exactly. QUOTE(Kalapse @ Apr 25, 2005 -> 03:48 PM) NO, this team has a true pitching staff Mark Buerhle Freddy Garcia Jose Contreras Orlando Hernandez Jon Garland 6&7: Brandon McCarthy, Jon Adkins Compared to... Darrell May Chris George Runelvys Hernandez Kyle Snyder Jose Lima 6&7: Jeremy Affeldt, Jimmy Gobble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 I agree, enjoy it while we can. It's better to be this record than 2 below .500. And don't forget our team changes when Frank returns. Just enjoy. We are playing good baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Could the '03 Royals win in Oakland? We sure can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Apr 25, 2005 -> 11:36 PM) Could the '03 Royals win in Oakland? We sure can. How about we win the series there before we get all cocky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Apr 25, 2005 -> 10:37 PM) How about we win the series there before we get all cocky. With MB going tomorrow and Garcia going Wednesday I like our chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 While our April can be compared to KC there is one difference. They had the hitting and pitching working for them in April. So far this season we have had the pitching but the hitting has not been there, so while our pitchers era will rise as the season progresses, the hitters avg. will also rise balancing each other out. We wont keep winning at this rate but we will be a good team without a doubt. 16-4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrunken Slugger Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 This team seems to have more in common with the 2000 Sox than the Royals of '03. At least I hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Yeah, our offense hasn't come around, this is surprising that we're 16-4. But we all love it. And yes, everyone just enjoy it. This probably will be the only time in our lives that the Sox are .800 after 20 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Apr 25, 2005 -> 10:59 PM) Yeah, our offense hasn't come around, this is surprising that we're 16-4. But we all love it. And yes, everyone just enjoy it. This probably will be the only time in our lives that the Sox are .800 after 20 games. The pitching is no fluke. We have argubly the best staff in the american league. It's gonna be down right scary when the offense comes around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2004 @ Apr 25, 2005 -> 11:02 PM) The pitching is no fluke. We have argubly the best staff in the american league. It's gonna be down right scary when the offense comes around. We're not doing too bad on the Runs thing. We've scored 92 runs so far and that works out to 4.6 runs a game. Could that be a little better? Yes but its more then plenty for this staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(RockRaines @ Apr 25, 2005 -> 08:44 PM) I have been thinking about our great start to this season and the negative reaction from sporting press. Many observers are linking our team to the 2003 KC Royals and their great start and 3rd place finish. Over achieving by the pitching staff, and lucky 1-run wins. Many people on this board are wondering if our numbers are going to come back to earth as well, especially when we have to face tough opponents in august etc. KC win/loss splits Month by Month Split W L RS RA WP March 1 0 3 0 1.000 April 16 7 122 95 0.696 May 10 19 131 177 0.345 June 15 12 155 160 0.556 July 15 11 136 125 0.577 August 13 15 146 155 0.464 September 13 15 143 155 0.464 Our April is starting to look alot like KC. Longest Winning Streak: 9 (March 31 to April 12) Lets all hope this is not the case, but what do you think? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> First, I would like to say that our pitching staff is not over achieving one bit. Second, these one run wins are not lucky. We are playing great defense and getting great pitching. We are also running the bases very well. We are playing all around very sound fundamental baseball. That is what helps you win close one run ball games. I have seen more comparisons written about this White Sox team and the 2002 Anaheim Angels. The one thing that is the same between this team and the Angels is the deep starting rotation and bullpen. The 2002 Angels and 2005 White Sox have very similary qualities. The KC Royals did not have a deep pitching staff and they were very young. A lot of things fell apart for that team. We have a lot of proven players and especially pitchers. I would like to believe the comparisons between the 2005 White Sox and the 2002 Angels are better comparisons. Only time will tell. Like many others have said, lets just enjoy the ride. Edited April 26, 2005 by southsideirish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(southsideirish @ Apr 26, 2005 -> 05:08 AM) I have seen more comparisons written about this White Sox team and the 2002 Anaheim Angels. The one thing that is the same between this team and the Angels is the deep starting rotation and bullpen. The 2002 Angels and 2005 White Sox have very similary qualities. I agree about the pitching depth, but their offense doesn't really compare at all. The 2002 Angels offense is more like a poor man's version of the 2004 Red Sox offense. Eckstein .363 OBP, .293 AVG Kennedy .345 OBP, .312 AVG Anderson .870 OPS, 30 HR, 125 RBI Glaus 30 HR, 110 RBI Salmon .880 OPS Fullmer .880 OPS Erstad .283 AVG Spiezio .810 OPS Molina Bench Palmeiro .300 AVG in 263 ABs Wooten .292 AVG in 113 ABs Gil .285 AVG in 130 ABs Nieves .289 AVG in 100 ABs Fabregas The catchers were a major disaster for the 2002 Angels if we're talking offense. Fabregas hit .193 and Molina hit .245. Edited April 26, 2005 by hammerhead johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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