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Ugh, what is it about short right field where our fielders forget how to play? 2 yrs ago, it was Jimenez dropping an easy popup for a 3 run error. Yesterday, it was Dye dropping a fly for an error.

 

Let's get the win today and get the hell out of that craphole.

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QUOTE(ChiSoxFan @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 10:37 AM)
Ugh, what is it about short right field where our fielders forget how to play? 2 yrs ago, it was Jimenez dropping an easy popup for a 3 run error.  Yesterday, it was Dye dropping a fly for an error. 

 

Let's get the win today and get the hell out of that craphole.

 

People are forgetting that Oakland's LF dropped a catchable flyball that allowed Rowand to score. As I've been saying .. this kind of s*** happens

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QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 09:51 AM)
People are forgetting that Oakland's LF dropped a catchable flyball that allowed Rowand to score.  As I've been saying .. this kind of s*** happens

 

 

I dont know how catchable that ball was. Hawk was saying it should have been scored a hit and it looked like he just got a bad break on the ball.

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People are forgetting that Oakland's LF dropped a catchable flyball that allowed Rowand to score.  As I've been saying .. this kind of s*** happens

That error by Byrnes was alot different. That ball was a low, hard liner by Rowand (I believe). It was a tough play. Dye's error came on a routine fly ball.

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QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 10:55 AM)
That error by Byrnes was alot different.  That ball was a low, hard liner by Rowand (I believe).  It was a tough play.  Dye's error came on a routine fly ball.

 

I'll agree with that. But honestly, if that was one of our outfielders, the board would have gone nuts on that as well. Nuke said he got a bad break. Isn't that the OF's fault? Wouldn't a good break have made that ball even more catchable?

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I just want to say that game last night was 3 notches above excruciating. we did the same sort of thing vs. KC, but we somehow won that one. we will not beat good teams making 4 (3? was that a type-o in the box score?) errors and balking in the tying run. it also showed the flaws this team has: a shaky bullpen and little depth.

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QUOTE(AirScott @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 11:04 AM)
I just want to say that game last night was 3 notches above excruciating.  we did the same sort of thing vs. KC, but we somehow won that one.  we will not beat good teams making 4 (3? was that a type-o in the box score?) errors and balking in the tying run.  it also showed the flaws this team has:  a shaky bullpen and little depth.

 

True. But every team has flaws unless you have one of those magical seasons where everyone plays above their head.

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one more point: the fact is that even though the bullpen is shaky, Ozzie needs to be able to trust it. if the score is 7-3 going into the bottom of the 7th, and Buehrle starts showing signs of wear, go to Damaso, Vizcaino, or Hermanson. go to a fresh arm to finish the game, that's why the have the bullpen. plus, Buehrle isn't going to go 9 innings every time he starts.

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QUOTE(AirScott @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 11:08 AM)
one more point:  the fact is that even though the bullpen is shaky, Ozzie needs to be able to trust it.  if the score is 7-3 going into the bottom of the 7th, and Buehrle starts showing signs of wear, go to Damaso, Vizcaino, or Hermanson.  go to a fresh arm to finish the game, that's why the have the bullpen.  plus, Buehrle isn't going to go 9 innings every time he starts.

 

I'll agree with that. That decision to stick with Mark was Ozzie's contribution to last night's fiasco. After the lead off hit in the bottom of the 7th, I was saying "Get him out of there". I like what Ozzie's doing with this team, but I wanted him to pull Buehrle.

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I was shocked when I woke up to see the Sox lost 9 - 7. I went to bed it was 3 - 0 Sox and it was going into the 5th....I thought Mark was cruising getting DPs when needed and all that. Then it seems all hell broke out... oh well one of those bad nights. They have to put it behind them and win today...

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QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 11:13 AM)
I was shocked when I woke up to see the Sox lost 9 - 7. I went to bed it was 3 - 0 Sox and it was going into the 5th....I thought Mark was cruising getting DPs when needed and all that. Then it seems all hell broke out... oh well one of those bad nights. They have to put it behind them and win today...

 

That was exactly when I went to bed... just after 10 o'clock. Imagine how disapppointed I was this morning :o

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I can see how people are being pissed at Jermaine Dye.... I mean when your a starter and your not hitting worth a damn, than you go and make 2 mistakes in the field.... that pisses you off.

 

But to be mad at Willie Harris who made a mistake when he was playing a position he hasnt played since like his college days..... thats just :banghead

 

Did Willie make an error against the royals, yes... but he also got some hits in that game to make it up and errors happen to everyone, but dont blame him for making a mistake playing out of position.

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What killed us most was:

 

1) Dye's throw to 3rd allowing the baserunner 2nd

2) Ozuna's botch at 3rd

3) Willies botch as SS

4) Froemmings BS call at home

5) 3rd Base Umps BS call on the balk.......which it was not, he stepped off THEN pulled his hands apart

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I don't really blame the Umps or Willie. Sometimes we get calls, sometimes we don't. Willie was out there cold and is not normally a SS. He looked awkward getting to the ball even.

 

I blame it all on poor play last night. We eventually had to lose, and there is was. We played poorly, and the result this time was what happens when you play poorly. Both teams actually looked terrible last night, so maybe it was something in the air.

 

My concern is that we have had two games very recently now where the defense fell apart in a terrible way. One of them we won, one we lost. I am just hoping that it isn't a sign of the defense starting on a slump before the bats really get going.

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QUOTE(AirScott @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 10:08 AM)
one more point:  the fact is that even though the bullpen is shaky, Ozzie needs to be able to trust it.  if the score is 7-3 going into the bottom of the 7th, and Buehrle starts showing signs of wear, go to Damaso, Vizcaino, or Hermanson.  go to a fresh arm to finish the game, that's why the have the bullpen.  plus, Buehrle isn't going to go 9 innings every time he starts.

I completely disagree about the bullpen being shaky, it's about as solid as it gets. I don't think ozzie kept Mark out there cause he doesn't trust the pen, he kept Mark out there because he's our ace, was it a mistake--maybe but in no way do I think he kept him out there cause he doesn't trust the pen.

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