Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 I think it would be wise to split up El Duque and Contreras. Having them back to back has worn down the bullpen in their consecutive days, and then the other 3 are going 7 innings or so pretty regularly. With days off on Thursday and Monday, now would be a good time to make this adjustment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Good point. Either that or El Duque and Contreras need to nut up and throw strikes. I know alot of El Duque's game is pitching around guys but Contreras has great stuff and needs to challenge hitters. In any case, I don't think they want to mess with Garland's mojo. He is pitching like an ace as the 5th starter. I doubt they mess with that. Besides, it would be kind of hard to switch the rotation around at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted April 27, 2005 Author Share Posted April 27, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 04:50 AM) Good point. Either that or El Duque and Contreras need to nut up and throw strikes. I know alot of El Duque's game is pitching around guys but Contreras has great stuff and needs to challenge hitters. In any case, I don't think they want to mess with Garland's mojo. He is pitching like an ace as the 5th starter. I doubt they mess with that. Besides, it would be kind of hard to switch the rotation around at this point. But see now is when you can do it. If they wanted they could delay Contreras's next start, have El Duque take that game (because of the off day he would have full rest) and drop Contreras back into the rotation after Garland's regular turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 But see now is when you can do it. If they wanted they could delay Contreras's next start, have El Duque take that game (because of the off day he would have full rest) and drop Contreras back into the rotation after Garland's regular turn. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm betting that they don't want to mess with Garland's fragile psyche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 QUOTE(Al Lopez's Ghost @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 05:45 AM) I think it would be wise to split up El Duque and Contreras. Having them back to back has worn down the bullpen in their consecutive days, and then the other 3 are going 7 innings or so pretty regularly. With days off on Thursday and Monday, now would be a good time to make this adjustment. I think that is a pretty darned good idea actually. Especially with Garland now working deep into games. I guess we will have to wait and see whether Jose is healthy or not to see if we even could do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 I was hoping to add another bullpen arm bcoz these cuban connection throws a lot of pitches and we always use almost all our bullpen guys with them starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted April 27, 2005 Author Share Posted April 27, 2005 Yeah, well you only can carry 25 guys - who you gonna get rid of? We're already deciding what happens if and when Frank comes back. Unless you think Neil Cotts could be improved upon, which I suppose is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 04:50 AM) Good point. Either that or El Duque and Contreras need to nut up and throw strikes. I know alot of El Duque's game is pitching around guys but Contreras has great stuff and needs to challenge hitters. In any case, I don't think they want to mess with Garland's mojo. He is pitching like an ace as the 5th starter. I doubt they mess with that. Besides, it would be kind of hard to switch the rotation around at this point. I agree that Duque and Contreras need to throw more strikes. Even they havent been really rocked yet their starts are an adventure to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBetsy Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Great point about breaking up Contreras and El Duque from a bullpen standpoint. I do like them together from a matchup standpoint. One night, the Sox have a flame-throwing starter on the mound with a potentially dominant splitter. The next night (as the rotation goes), they put out a junkballer who knows how to pitch and change speeds. I think there is some advantage to that. Maybe the rotation should be (for mixing up the opposition) Garcia (fastball/curve), Buehrle (cut fastball, sinker), Contreras (fastball, splitter), El Duque (everything), Garland (power sinker, curveball). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 10:50 AM) Good point. Either that or El Duque and Contreras need to nut up and throw strikes. I know alot of El Duque's game is pitching around guys but Contreras has great stuff and needs to challenge hitters. In any case, I don't think they want to mess with Garland's mojo. He is pitching like an ace as the 5th starter. I doubt they mess with that. Besides, it would be kind of hard to switch the rotation around at this point. Actually it would be pretty easy for them to do it right now and they can use Jose's bad hammy as the excuse to do it. Move El Duque, Garland and Buehrle up for the Tigger series(they would all still be on 4 days rest) and pitch Jose C in the KC opener giving him an extra 4 days of rest for his hammy. Walla! I also like this move because it puts Buehrle and Jose back to back and gives apponents a change of pac(ing) with the pitchers(Buehrle working fast, Jose slow), it could save Jose 5-10 pitches a game which could mean as much as an extra inning from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 I wouldn't mind seeing Garland and Contreras swap. But on the other hand why switch Garland, he's doing just fine right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted April 30, 2005 Author Share Posted April 30, 2005 Harrelson and DJ just said Ozzie's thinking about breaking the two up. Hawk said "Got to, got to." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 QUOTE(Al Lopez's Ghost @ Apr 30, 2005 -> 06:18 PM) Harrelson and DJ just said Ozzie's thinking about breaking the two up. Hawk said "Got to, got to." I just want to know when we could start doing it. It does seem like a necessary thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 QUOTE(Al Lopez's Ghost @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 04:45 AM) I think it would be wise to split up El Duque and Contreras. Having them back to back has worn down the bullpen in their consecutive days, and then the other 3 are going 7 innings or so pretty regularly. With days off on Thursday and Monday, now would be a good time to make this adjustment. good call, those two run up pitch counts like its their job...its nice to see intelligent ideas on here every now and then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 QUOTE(Al Lopez's Ghost @ Apr 30, 2005 -> 06:18 PM) Harrelson and DJ just said Ozzie's thinking about breaking the two up. Hawk said "Got to, got to." And you know Hawk got the idea from here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 those tow back2back is wearing out the f***ing audience. The games are just too long. We need BUehrle really bad after these guys go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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