greasywheels121 Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2050587 Selig's stance: Third offense should trigger lifetime ban Associated Press NEW YORK -- Baseball commissioner Bud Selig asked players to agree to a 50-game suspension for first-time steroid offenders and a lifetime ban for a third violation under what he called a "three strikes and you are out approach" to doping. In a letter sent this week to union head Donald Fehr, Selig proposed a 100-game ban for a second offense. He also asked the union to ban amphetamines, to have more frequent random tests and to appoint an independent person to administer the major league drug-testing program. "Third offenders should be banned permanently. I recognize the need for progressive discipline, but a third-time offender has no place in the game," Selig wrote to Fehr. "Steroid users cheat the game. After three offenses, they have no place in it." Under the rules that began this season, a first offense gets a 10-day suspension, with the penalty increasing to 30 days for a second positive test, 60 days for a third and one year for a fourth. For a fifth positive, the penalty is at the commissioner's discretion. Baseball currently has no penalties for amphetamine use by players on 40-man major league rosters. Amphetamines are banned for players under minor league contracts. "Last winter, we reopened our agreement to deal with steroids," Selig wrote in the April 25 letter, a copy of which was obtained Saturday by The Associated Press. "I am asking you now to demonstrate once again to America that our relationship has improved to the point that we can act quickly and effectively deal with matters affecting the integrity of our great sport." Reached Saturday, Fehr said the union was not yet prepared to discuss Selig's proposal. "We'll respond in due course," Fehr said, adding he anticipated replying early next week. Baseball players agreed during the offseason to reopen the drug agreement, which was not set to expire until December 2006. The new rules, which began in March, for the first time instituted suspensions for a first positive test for steroid use. The new agreement, not scheduled to expire until December 2008, has been criticized by many in Congress as not tough enough and several congressmen threatened to propose federal legislation. "I continue to believe that time is of the essence in addressing this issue," Selig wrote to Fehr. Several congressmen cited the World Anti-Doping Agency code as their ideal. It calls for a two-year ban for a first offense and a lifetime ban for a second, unless there are mitigating circumstances. Some in Congress also were concerned that baseball's program is administered by a committee of management and union representatives, and several wanted a ban on amphetamines, long referred to as "greenies" in baseball. "It is time to put the whispers about amphetamine use to bed once and for all," Selig wrote. "To the extent that our culture has tolerated the use of these substances, the culture must change." Selig disclosed the letter to Fehr in a memorandum the commissioner sent Friday to team owners, presidents and chief executive officers. "This letter follows a personal meeting with Don and several telephone conversations during which I expressed my fervent views on the subject of the use of performance-enhancing substances," Selig wrote in the memo, which also was obtained by the AP. "It is my strong opinion that, regardless of whatever incremental progress we may have made under the current agreement, we continue to have a serious integrity issue with regard to our current policy and our great game," Selig wrote. "Prompt, decisive and dramatic action is needed to address the use of performance- enhancing substances because of the unfairness of such use to the rest of our players who want a level playing field." Selig said he will make alterations for 2006 to the drug-testing program for players with minor league contracts, who are not covered by the collective bargaining agreement. Current the minor league penalty starts at 15 games for a first offense, then escalates to 30 games, 60 games and one year, with a fifth offense bringing a lifetime ban. "These changes will include tougher discipline, including a permanent ban for a third offense, stricter regulation of amphetamines and greater reliance on independent experts," Selig said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be Good Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 I doubt it will get done, but i'd be very happy if it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 It may not happen but Selig has shifted blame for the steroid problem to the players if they refuse to sign off on this. Smart move by Bud even if it's a little late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 Mad props to Bud for finally showing he has some nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 Finding myself saying a sentence I doubted I'd ever say: I agree with Bud Selig. Now -- it says they are negotiating through the player's union...I just have to ask, what happens with the players that are not in the union? Would this be binding for them as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Apr 30, 2005 -> 10:25 PM) Mad props to Bud for finally showing he has some nuts. I wonder if all of the negative publicity and having to appear in front of Congress had anything to do with it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 Am I saying good job to Bud???? I guess so. Good job Bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 I hope it goes through, but I don't give any credit to Selig. They JUST reworked this, he could have pushed it then instead of gabbing about how effective this grand new policy was going to be. But occasionally something as petty as grandstanding can lead to good results... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be Good Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ May 1, 2005 -> 11:26 AM) Am I saying good job to Bud???? I guess so. Good job Bud. Good job Bud? I think he knows very well that this we'll never get done. The players Union or whaterver is not going to accept it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 Congress may implement a tougher policy. The MLBPA has to listen to thsi stuff. Another band-aid ain't gonna stop the bleeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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