southsider2k5 Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 I don't know that I would have qualified as a lover of Jon, but I definately always thought the best was still to come. All though I will admit it has been a long time since I thought Jon could be this good. But honestly with all of the posts I have I can't believe I didn't make either list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 Of course I made the hater list. Before this year, Garland hasn't thrown to his potential. What else was there to say about him? Now that he is, I have no problem saying he's doing a great job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISF Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 I vote we rename this the "I told you so" board. No, seriously, Garland's been awesome, but it is WAY too early to start saying he's finally figured things out. Great month, but that's all it is, one month. Let's hope it continues, would love to see Garland starting the All-Star game this year. Maybe somebody can get Ed Lynch and Matt Karchner complimentary passes to the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 QUOTE(aboz56 @ May 2, 2005 -> 11:23 PM) Of course I made the hater list. Before this year, Garland hasn't thrown to his potential. What else was there to say about him? Now that he is, I have no problem saying he's doing a great job. I think the issue that came up with Garland last season and off-season, was that we all know the potential that he had. His backers wanted to keep him around so he could find that potential, but others thought he was just going to be the same 11-12 win with a high 4 ERA. And I think this statement sums it up perfectly. Thank god this wasn't the Kip Wells situation all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 QUOTE(CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ May 1, 2005 -> 08:13 PM) I have researched past threads on the topic of Jon Garland prior to this season. Below is a list of JG Haters and Lovers. If you dont see your name on the list it means I couldn't figure out where you stood by your posts or I saw no posts. Haters: Qwerty, Santo=dorf, KnuckleSox1, witesoxfan, Soxfest, Jordan4life_2004, babybearhater, Soxwatcher, EvilJester99, Soxnbears01, poorme, 1549, jeremyb, mreye, mmmmmbeeer, wharris1, Yoda, BigDub, Cubkilla, Aboz56, knightni, IndySoxFan Lovers : Jeckle2000, T R U , CWSGUY406, greg775, Dbaho, soxfan101, Yasny, JDsDirtySox, Kapkomet, Rowand44, ChiSoxFan, Heads22, Palehosefan, DanMan31, HammerheadJohnson, daSox24, BridgeportHeather, TexSox, Soxfan420, FlaSoxxJim, greasywheels161, Reddy, Jake, ChiSoxmatt, GeneHondaCivic, MurcieOne and of course CaliSoxfanViaSWside. This is just a sample list . A lot of the haters posted over and over. But many of the haters also said Jon would be fine with them as a 5th starter so it seems everyone got their wish , Jon is a #5 and is fulfulling his potential. I would LOVE to see the post that makes me a hater. Critical, maybe, but a hater - no way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 2, 2005 Author Share Posted May 2, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 2, 2005 -> 06:19 AM) I don't know that I would have qualified as a lover of Jon, but I definately always thought the best was still to come. All though I will admit it has been a long time since I thought Jon could be this good. But honestly with all of the posts I have I can't believe I didn't make either list I did see some posts by you SS2K5 just couldn't tell one way or the other. Mostly if anyone said "he sucks and always will be what he is" was a "hater" . If you defended Jon and said "he's young ,give him time to get it " you were a "lover." I tried to limit the research to offseason and the end of last year. I figured if I went too deep into last season that people would love or hate on a game to game basis. Guess I should 've made an " On the fence" list too. You probably would have been put on that. Nothing too negative yet nothing overly positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 2, 2005 Author Share Posted May 2, 2005 QUOTE(mreye @ May 2, 2005 -> 06:44 AM) I would LOVE to see the post that makes me a hater. Critical, maybe, but a hater - no way! Sorry Eye , I think I only saw one post by you in my research. If it was critical , you were put on the "haters" side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 QUOTE(CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ May 2, 2005 -> 07:50 AM) Sorry Eye , I think I only saw one post by you in my research. If it was critical , you were put on the "haters" side. By a single post? Ouch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 2, 2005 Author Share Posted May 2, 2005 QUOTE(mreye @ May 2, 2005 -> 06:52 AM) By a single post? Ouch! OK OK I never said I was a scientist. I knew there would be controversy , which was kind of why I did it. I hope no one is offended . I will be the first to apologize if anyone is. I think the thread is currently 6 pages long because we all like to see what others thought of sumone prior to their success. Were they hopeful ? Were they doubters ? We sure all like to say " I told you so" too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 2, 2005 Author Share Posted May 2, 2005 Going back to last year , Jon has a 7 game winning streak which , I believe since Santana lost is currently the 2nd longest streak in the majors. Last night after talking about the Sox and Garland, Chris Berman started singing " Somewhere Over the Rainbow". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 I'm a lover! And I love to be noticed! Yesssssssss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ May 2, 2005 -> 12:49 AM) Why did Brando get banned anyway? I musta missed it. Whatever happened to Ozzie the Airdale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 QUOTE(CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ May 2, 2005 -> 10:15 AM) Last night after talking about the Sox and Garland, Chris Berman started singing " Somewhere Over the Rainbow". He knew Judy was looming.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 QUOTE(CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ May 2, 2005 -> 08:11 AM) OK OK I never said I was a scientist. I knew there would be controversy , which was kind of why I did it. I hope no one is offended . I will be the first to apologize if anyone is. I think the thread is currently 6 pages long because we all like to see what others thought of sumone prior to their success. Were they hopeful ? Were they doubters ? We sure all like to say " I told you so" too. It's all good. FWIW, I've always supported the kid, I just don't get involved in the debates. Also, FWIW, I drafted him this year and I'm currently in 2nd place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 I definatley did not like him coming into the season, thinking that he was an overpaid 5th starter. But Im now even more cautious. Because if we sign him to a bigger contract now, what if he turns back into old Jon? Then he could be the next Chan Ho, and we would look stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 QUOTE(3E8 @ May 2, 2005 -> 09:19 AM) Whatever happened to Ozzie the Airdale? The Sox are winning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 QUOTE(3E8 @ May 2, 2005 -> 02:19 PM) Whatever happened to Ozzie the Airdale? That guy was such a schmuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 Personally, the only Sox hater I really ever got an humor from was Poppy Hidalgo. Wonder where he is. Saw him a few times earlier in the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 QUOTE(aboz56 @ May 2, 2005 -> 11:11 AM) Personally, the only Sox hater I really ever got an humor from was Poppy Hidalgo. Wonder where he is. Saw him a few times earlier in the year. Once again, the Sox are winning.... You will see these people again if and when the teams falls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigNDfan80 Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 I've always loved Jon Garland, but hated Judy Garland. He has apparently locked Judy Garland in the closet so far this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 2, 2005 -> 02:47 PM) I definatley did not like him coming into the season, thinking that he was an overpaid 5th starter. But Im now even more cautious. Because if we sign him to a bigger contract now, what if he turns back into old Jon? Then he could be the next Chan Ho, and we would look stupid. Even if Garland wins the cy young he wont get a Chano Ho contract..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 QUOTE(BigNDfan80 @ May 2, 2005 -> 10:27 AM) I've always loved Jon Garland, but hated Judy Garland. He has apparently locked Judy Garland in the closet so far this year. Seems that Judy has been exorcised from Garland's body and has taken up residence in the body of Jared Wright of the Spankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 2, 2005 -> 04:24 PM) Once again, the Sox are winning.... You will see these people again if and when the teams falls. LOL, and CRector? Or whatever his name was? Where's the "Decline and Fall of Mark Buehrle" thread when ya need it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1549 Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 I'll admit being very down on Garland. As a former hater I owe Jon a congrats for making me eat my words...and I gladly do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1549 Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 2, 2005 -> 09:42 PM) LOL, and CRector? Or whatever his name was? Where's the "Decline and Fall of Mark Buehrle" thread when ya need it... Now that you mention it...I'm still pissed Buehrle couldn't hold a lead in that oakland game :headshake :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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