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[KWs OK for Me]

The only one of them I am firmilar with is Aderol, and it makes people so dumb...seems like they're high almost. I guess they do get alot done...I have never taken them and never will (no need), so I couldn't say what they exactly do to a person. I have to think baseball players have better types of "uppers" than Aderol, as they do have designer steroids and all.

 

Baseball has a history of this though. Only cracked down on Ephedra after the Oriole's pitcher died...only on steroids after Congress got involved.

To say that people who use Aderol makes them appear dumb is kinda ignorant. I'm not saying you are ignorant person, but when it comes to this you might be. I have not used nor ever plan to use Aderol but I know plenty of people who do, have, and presecribe it. I completely understand why baseball players would use it. imagine playing 162 games in something like 180 days. THat is a grueling lifestyle when you factor in the travel too. Aderol or other amphetamines would give the players the lift, the energy, to get through the game. When their livelihood is based on their performance in a grueling sport one would take that in order to succeed.

[Steff]

To say that people who use Aderol makes them appear dumb is kinda ignorant.  I'm not saying you are ignorant person, but when it comes to this you might be.  I have not used nor ever plan to use Aderol but I know plenty of people who do, have, and presecribe it.  I completely understand why baseball players would use it. imagine playing 162 games in something like 180 days.  THat is a grueling lifestyle when you factor in the travel too.  Aderol or other amphetamines would give the players the lift, the energy, to get through the game.  When their livelihood is based on their performance in a grueling sport one would take that in order to succeed.

 

 

I know some on Aderol.. it does make them kind of spacy. I think that's what he meant. I also know some on Ritilin (another MLB fav... ) and it makes them act like a 5 year old who ate waaaay too much cotton candy, while others it makes them droopy.

[LosMediasBlancas]

The only one of them I am firmilar with is Aderol, and it makes people so dumb...seems like they're high almost. I guess they do get alot done...I have never taken them and never will (no need), so I couldn't say what they exactly do to a person. I have to think baseball players have better types of "uppers" than Aderol, as they do have designer steroids and all.

 

Baseball has a history of this though. Only cracked down on Ephedra after the Oriole's pitcher died...only on steroids after Congress got involved.

 

I thought Aderol and Ritilin just help you stay really focused, that's why College kids abuse them. I've heard them say that while on it, they study for hours and hours and retain a lot more info. not that they give you a ton of energy. I think we're talking about more speedy drugs for ball players. I still don't see how either one would help a baseball player.

[Steff]

I thought Aderol and Ritilin just help you stay really focused, that's why College kids abuse them. I've heard them say that while on it, they study for hours and hours and retain a lot more info. not that they give you a ton of energy. I think we're talking about more speedy drugs for ball players. I still don't see how either one would help a baseball player.

 

Ritilin effects people so differently. When it first came out 15+ years ago and was being passed out like candy both my brother and cousin were on it.. made my cousin coma like and sped my brother up.

[Controlled Chaos]

Since there is all this drug stuff going on...can we get Contreras and El Duque on some coke or something. Those guys need to speed it up...

 

It is painful to watch the sox when they are pitching...It seriously ruins the game for me...I can imagine what it does to the players in the field.

[UofIChiSox]

I've heard about the need to shorten the season if amphetamines are banned, my question is just how is the game so different from the past when pitchers pitched every day or every other day or whatever. It's amazing how much the game has changed from being more about endurance then to power now.

[Steff]

http://sun.science.wayne.edu/~bio340/Stude.../Restum/pos.htm

 

 

Positives of Ritalin

The positive side effects of Ritalin, when given as a single once-a-day dose (the proper dose prescribe by your Doctor), helps children to fall asleep normally at night and wake up bright and cheery in the morning, is effective in about 70% of children, is not addicting, does not cause tics, does not stunt growth, causes no let-down or crash, and even stops bedwetting if present in about nine out of ten children treated. Of course, I believe that desipramine should not be started in any individual before a pretreatment electrocardiograph study is completed.

 

A positive side effect example would be, A study (Arnold and Kirilcuk Corson, 1993) was done dealing with a 6-week trial of Ritalin. The study focused on the performance and behavior or children ages 8-15 with learning disabilities. There were two groups. The first group was comprised of 20 children who were given Ritalin and the second group was comprised of 20 children given placebos. Researchers conducting this study used the Peterson and Quay Scale (children behavior dealing with conduct and personality), and the Werry Weis Peters activity Scale (behaviorism's during school, home, and playing with friends),Wesher Intelligence Scale (children's motor skills), and Bender Gestalt Test for Young Children.

 

The results were; the children who were administered the Ritalin improved in motor performance. They were less distractible and more attentive. Parents and Teachers rated the children who were taking Ritalin and noticed about an 88% improvement.

 

 

Negatives

There are many side effects that are very dangerous to children who are taking the drug. The risks involved are questionable depending on the dosage and child involved who is taking the medication. Still, studies have been done and research concluding each risk is definitely a possibility. Children who take Ritalin can expect to have at least one of the following symptoms: nervousness, insomnia, tired and grogginess when dose is excessive, weight loss, anorexia or decreased appetite, severe depression, irritability, headaches, abdominal pain, negative mood changes, dizziness, less sociable attitudes, nightmares, decrease of blood flow to the brain, disruption of growth hormone leading to suppression of growth in the body and brain of a child, permanent neurological tics including Tourette's syndrome, addiction and abuse including withdrawal reactions on a daily basis, possible shrinkage or other permanent physical abnormalities in the brain, worsening of the very symptoms the drug is supposed to improve, tremor, palpitation, hypertension, and some risk of liver problems.

 

 

 

Pretty significant differences in the side effects.

[SuperSteve]

To say that people who use Aderol makes them appear dumb is kinda ignorant.  I'm not saying you are ignorant person, but when it comes to this you might be.  I have not used nor ever plan to use Aderol but I know plenty of people who do, have, and presecribe it.  I completely understand why baseball players would use it. imagine playing 162 games in something like 180 days.  THat is a grueling lifestyle when you factor in the travel too.  Aderol or other amphetamines would give the players the lift, the energy, to get through the game.  When their livelihood is based on their performance in a grueling sport one would take that in order to succeed.

I am not talking about people who are prescribed to it. That is different. It is the people who take it and don't need it who act dumb. You can't tell me a girl sitting under her desk laughing her ass off at nothing is intelligent thinking. One of my friends wanted to run the entire dorms one day when she was on it, and sure enough she did. Baseball isn't that grueling too...sorry.

[SuperSteve]

I've heard about the need to shorten the season if amphetamines are banned, my question is just how is the game so different from the past when pitchers pitched every day or every other day or whatever.  It's amazing how much the game has changed from being more about endurance then to power now.

Players don't have the stamina and durability. Players back then didn't go on the DL when the slightest discomfort hit...they played through it. They needed to get paid. With guarenteed contracts in a multimillion dollar industry, they take alot less chances.

[ptatc]

To address the original question: should uppers be banned, I would say yes. The are and always have been used in pro sports particularly baseball. The do enhance performance artifically and are illegal. Games after late night travel, day games after long night games are all effectede by uppers. They are unhealthy and may very well contribute to some of the behavior on the field.

 

On a side note, performance enhancment will never go away until blood testing is done. Do you want to know why very few big name players will test positive? They can afford the HGH which can only be found through a blood test and is too expensive for the lower paid athletes.