AnthraxFan93 Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 I was having this discussion with a guy here at work, who reads here but never posts... The next 3 weeks we face teams that can hit the hell out of the ball. Honestly do we all think that we can hold the Jays,Rangers and O's to 2 or less runs per game? I don't they have better hitters than we have. So I think the rest of the month we see what we have this could break us or jsut further prove that the Sox are for real. But, in order for that to heppen..WE NEED to hit the f***ing ball, and more than 2 runs a game! Just a thought I see what the rest of yous thought.. carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 Im not sold on Toronto, and Tampa Bay is still a bad team.. We need to take advantage of these next two series to keep this hot start rolling.. it will only benefit us in the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doUrememberwhen Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 Try the rest of the entire regular season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ May 6, 2005 -> 10:48 AM) I was having this discussion with a guy here at work, who reads here but never posts... The next 3 weeks we face teams that can hit the hell out of the ball. Honestly do we all think that we can hold the Jays,Rangers and O's to 2 or less runs per game? I don't they have better hitters than we have. So I think the rest of the month we see what we have this could break us or jsut further prove that the Sox are for real. But, in order for that to heppen..WE NEED to hit the f***ing ball, and more than 2 runs a game! Just a thought I see what the rest of yous thought.. carry on. there is absolutely no doubt that we need to hit. but the pitching has faced detroit who is a very good offensive team and came out just fine vs them. toronto's O is playing way over their head right now. The O's offense is overwhealming, and they are gonna give all sorts of pitching staffs problems, but i think if anyone can shut em down it could be us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 This is an interesting topic. Two things will play out during this month. We will find out if good pitching beats good hitting. We will also find out if the Sox will break out of their collective hitting slump. Both actually need to happen if we want to prove ourselves out. In my opinion we cannot continue to win like yesterday, we need to hit the damn ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 QUOTE(quickman @ May 6, 2005 -> 11:00 AM) This is an interesting topic. Two things will play out during this month. We will find out if good pitching beats good hitting. We will also find out if the Sox will break out of their collective hitting slump. Both actually need to happen if we want to prove ourselves out. In my opinion we cannot continue to win like yesterday, we need to hit the damn ball. it doesnt matter how you win, as long as you win, but teh fact of the matter is that those types of wins occur once or twice a year (unless you have marte and politte pitch in detroit) so yeah the O certainly needs to pick it up, because tonight toronto isnt gonna walk in 2 runs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 QUOTE(daa84 @ May 6, 2005 -> 05:01 PM) it doesnt matter how you win, as long as you win, but teh fact of the matter is that those types of wins occur once or twice a year (unless you have marte and politte pitch in detroit) so yeah the O certainly needs to pick it up, because tonight toronto isnt gonna walk in 2 runs My point exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 There is no doubt the schedule finally picks up this month as we leave the bad teams of the AL central behind, and start to pick up the problems that are the AL West. The nice thing is that even if we stumble, we have built in a nice 4 1/2 game cushion. I would tend to argue that this month could make us, but unless there is an absolute meltdown, it won't break us. One nice thing is that the Twins don't exactly have an easy schedule as they pretty close to mimic the teams that we are playing in May. They have 3 games with Baltimore, 3 with Texas, 6 with Toronto, 3 with Milwaukee, and 5 with Cleveland, and 3 with TB. Our schedule looks like 3 with Tor, 3 with TB, 4 with Bal, 6 with Tex, 3 with the Cubs, and 5 with the Angels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 6, 2005 -> 11:18 AM) There is no doubt the schedule finally picks up this month as we leave the bad teams of the AL central behind, and start to pick up the problems that are the AL West. The nice thing is that even if we stumble, we have built in a nice 4 1/2 game cushion. I would tend to argue that this month could make us, but unless there is an absolute meltdown, it won't break us. One nice thing is that the Twins don't exactly have an easy schedule as they pretty close to mimic the teams that we are playing in May. They have 3 games with Baltimore, 3 with Texas, 6 with Toronto, 3 with Milwaukee, and 5 with Cleveland, and 3 with TB. Our schedule looks like 3 with Tor, 3 with TB, 4 with Bal, 6 with Tex, 3 with the Cubs, and 5 with the Angels. good point, but as hawk always says if you win within your division, youre gonna be in good shape. i wish we played the yankees early though while they are stuggling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 In an article I read on ESPN, an AL GM was quoted as saying that he thinks a team is "going to have to mash" to win the AL. Since that wasn't KW, obviously the guy isn't in charge of the best team in baseball, but this month will go a long way to show just how strong (or weak) our pitching and bullpen are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 QUOTE(quickman @ May 6, 2005 -> 11:00 AM) This is an interesting topic. Two things will play out during this month. We will find out if good pitching beats good hitting. We will also find out if the Sox will break out of their collective hitting slump. Both actually need to happen if we want to prove ourselves out. In my opinion we cannot continue to win like yesterday, we need to hit the damn ball. No pitching staff is better to break out of a slump against than the O's, they are terrible. I think we can face some bottom tier starters coming up, and that may drive us to pour in some runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmmbeeer Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 Our biggest enemy this season is going to be teams with good pitching. There aren't many teams in the AL that fit the bill. The Jays and O's may be able to hit like we could the last couple seasons, but they don't have the pitching to support them. Our staff should do a good job of keeping these guys at/under 4 runs a game. Against poor pitching we should be able to win. You've also got to keep who these teams have played in mind when evaluating their offenses. IMO, there isn't even a staff approaching mediocrity in the AL East; baltimore and toronto have been taking advantage of that fact. And, not to jinx us or anything, but come playoff time I'd gladly put MB, FG, and JG, with OH and JC coming out of the pen, against any staff in the AL and be confident we'd have the best playoff rotation, with Anaheim being the only team coming close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 QUOTE(mmmmmbeeer @ May 6, 2005 -> 11:35 AM) And, not to jinx us or anything, but come playoff time I'd gladly put MB, FG, and JG, with OH and JC coming out of the pen, against any staff in the AL and be confident we'd have the best playoff rotation, with Anaheim being the only team coming close. I'd like to agree with that, but if the Yankees' rotation gets healthy, they are pretty damn good. Also, Johan Santana in a 5 game series would be deadly, regardless of the other pitchers starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 QUOTE(Wedge @ May 6, 2005 -> 12:40 PM) I'd like to agree with that, but if the Yankees' rotation gets healthy, they are pretty damn good. Also, Johan Santana in a 5 game series would be deadly, regardless of the other pitchers starting. Luckily we can't face them in the first round, so even if we did see them in the playoffs, it would be in a 7 game series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 6, 2005 -> 05:32 PM) No pitching staff is better to break out of a slump against than the O's, they are terrible. I think we can face some bottom tier starters coming up, and that may drive us to pour in some runs. I was gonna say that none of the upcoming teams have good pitching, then I remebered that KC held us to what 6 runs in a 3 game series. Yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 6, 2005 -> 11:43 AM) Luckily we can't face them in the first round, so even if we did see them in the playoffs, it would be in a 7 game series. True. However, given I was an AL East or West team, I think I would dread playing the Twins more than the Sox in a five game series, purely because of Santana. Garland has been dominant for us, but I don't know if he will be "play-off dominant" if we reach that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 I don't think it's the toughest month we play, but I think this is a big month for the sox to get the mental part of winning out of the way. Some success against powerful hitting teams will make them feel unbeatable. Mental toughness and 'can do' attitude is HUGE. Look at the yankees....Are they losing cause they have no talent?? hell no...they are broken down mentally and it's hard to come back from that. Conversely it's also hard to come down from it. The Sox need that high....they are close to it now...Big Jon is definitely on it now. A couple wins over the big offensive teams will put us on that cloud. Let's go sox!! As for the most physically demanding month I would have to say August. 6 SEA, 6 NYY, 6 MIN, 3 BOS, 3 TEX, 3 TOR, 1 BAL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 QUOTE(Wedge @ May 6, 2005 -> 05:45 PM) True. However, given I was an AL East or West team, I think I would dread playing the Twins more than the Sox in a five game series, purely because of Santana. Garland has been dominant for us, but I don't know if he will be "play-off dominant" if we reach that point. Hasn't Santana thrown against the Yankees in their 5 game playoff series? How has he done? Did he throw 2 or 3 games in each?...I don't remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ May 6, 2005 -> 12:47 PM) I don't think it's the toughest month we play, but I think this is a big month for the sox to get the mental part of winning out of the way. Some success against powerful hitting teams will make them feel unbeatable. Mental toughness and 'can do' attitude is HUGE. Look at the yankees....Are they losing cause they have no talent?? hell no...they are broken down mentally and it's hard to come back from that. Conversely it's also hard to come down from it. The Sox need that high....they are close to it now...Big Jon is definitely on it now. A couple wins over the big offensive teams will put us on that cloud. Let's go sox!! As for the most physically demanding month I would have to say August. 6 SEA, 6 NYY, 6 MIN, 3 BOS, 3 TEX, 3 TOR, 1 BAL There is no doubt August is just flat scary. I hope to God we have a 10 game lead going into that month with no injuries, Frank Thomas, and big deadline aquisition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ May 6, 2005 -> 11:48 AM) Hasn't Santana thrown against the Yankees in their 5 game playoff series? How has he done? Did he throw 2 or 3 games in each?...I don't remember. I believe last season he threw 2 games against the Yankees. He won one game and should have had the win in the other, but the Yankees scored 4 runs late off of Rincon. In game one, he went 7.0 and gave up no runs. In game four, he went 5.0 and gave up one run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 6, 2005 -> 12:52 PM) There is no doubt August is just flat scary. I hope to God we have a 10 game lead going into that month with no injuries, Frank Thomas, and big deadline aquisition. 10 games would make me feel a whole lot better. On the other hand September should be a cake walk if they continue to beat the teams they should beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retro1983hat Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 We need a big cusion come August. A 5 game lead could evaporate in two weeks during that month. We need to just keep rolling now, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 QUOTE(Wedge @ May 6, 2005 -> 05:56 PM) I believe last season he threw 2 games against the Yankees. He won one game and should have had the win in the other, but the Yankees scored 4 runs late off of Rincon. In game one, he went 7.0 and gave up no runs. In game four, he went 5.0 and gave up one run. That's right, I remember now. Post season is a long time away, if it started tomorrow, I'd fear us the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 Here's a thought... Maybe our offense comes around? I mean, I know we've been relying heavily on our pitching, but maybe the offense finds itself this month...You never know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ May 6, 2005 -> 01:48 PM) Here's a thought... Maybe our offense comes around? I mean, I know we've been relying heavily on our pitching, but maybe the offense finds itself this month...You never know... I think the offense will definitely come around...I also think the pitching will get down to good instead of outf***instanding. Hopefully the two even out and it's enought to keep winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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