santo=dorf Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 8, 2005 -> 05:46 PM) It has to be options. That's the only acceptable reason... And, he's only been called up once, so it can't be that, can it? Gosh, what a waste of 400K... Dumb dumb dumb move. Dumb. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You haven't even seen him throw a f***ing pitch in the bigs. Are you JR's accountant or something? How confident are you with our current LHP in the bullpen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 You can't really say Walker is either. I fail to see the logic behind this. It's not like Baj had to be added to the 40-man or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 It's like we're saying, hey pitch as well as you want down in Charlotte. It's just too bad you throw with your right hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 8, 2005 -> 04:35 PM) And I echo Tony's sentiments. Some of you are b****ing that guys like Marte and Shingo and Cotts are giving you heart-aches? Walker couldn't even get AAA hitters out, and we reward him with a half a million bucks. Sheesh. This is pretty f***ing stupid. I dont understand at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(santo=dorf @ May 8, 2005 -> 10:51 PM) You haven't even seen him throw a f***ing pitch in the bigs. Are you JR's accountant or something? How confident are you with our current LHP in the bullpen? Perfectly confident. Walker sucks. What, I assume he'll come up and dominate due to... what, exactly? No, I haven't seen him throw a pitch. But you know what, not many guys with a 4.10 career MINOR LEAGUE ERA are good. Not many at all... EDIT: They're few and far between. I wouldn't be looking at the stats if Walker was dominating Charlotte, but he was getting killed DOWN THERE. What makes you think he'll do anything different up here? Edited May 8, 2005 by CWSGuy406 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 It's like we're saying, hey pitch as well as you want down in Charlotte. It's just too bad you throw with your right hand. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> When would Bajenaru ever have a chance to pitch in a bullpen with Hermanson, Politte, Shingo, and Vizcaino? He would pitch even less than Cotts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 8, 2005 -> 10:57 PM) When would Bajenaru ever have a chance to pitch in a bullpen with Hermanson, Politte, Shingo, and Vizcaino? He would pitch even less than Cotts. Walker shouldn't be on a team that is the best in baseball. Period. And yes, I'm more confident in Baj getting guys out than Walker. Hands down, easy. I'm out, gonna go eat some Mother's Day fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 But we should rely on Walker? This is the last guy in the bullpen. It's not like we're gonna have them out there in a pressure situation a whole lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 8, 2005 -> 04:57 PM) When would Bajenaru ever have a chance to pitch in a bullpen with Hermanson, Politte, Shingo, and Vizcaino? He would pitch even less than Cotts. This bullpen was as solid as could be and now it is less so. I hate this move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 8, 2005 -> 05:56 PM) Perfectly confident. Walker sucks. What, I assume he'll come up and dominate due to... what, exactly? No, I haven't seen him throw a pitch. But you know what, not many guys with a 4.10 career MINOR LEAGUE ERA are good. Not many at all... EDIT: They're few and far between. I wouldn't be looking at the stats if Walker was dominating Charlotte, but he was getting killed DOWN THERE. What makes you think he'll do anything different up here? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I want to see him in the majors before I bash him. I heard enough about career minor league stats this past offseason when we traded for Podsednik. I'm not that confident with Cotts, and after today's outing Marte. I tend to think Ozzie feels the same way which is why this move was made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 Didn't it say that he'd get the money if he made it out of ST which obviously he didnt so we dont have to pay him that money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 (edited) I think most of you guys are forgetting that Kevin Walker is going to be our LOOGy. He is going to be called upon to get one lefty batter out. I doubt he will be used for much more than that. Bajenaru cannot be a LOOGy because he is a righty. By the way, take a look at the Devil Rays' lineup. Their whole outfield is composed of lefty bats -- Aubrey Huff, Carl Crawford, and Alex Sanchez. Maybe that has something to do with this move. Edited May 8, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 This is a non-move. I don't know why all of you are getting upset. Chill out. I highly doubt Walker sees any important innings BEFORE proving he can pitch at this level. Ozzie has been hesitant to use Luis and Neil in the past couple weeks, Walker isn't taking their innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 I can usually sit back and figure out why the team makes certain moves, but calling up Walker has me stumped. Is it because Tampa Bay and Baltimore are loaded with lefties? That's the only thing I can come up with as a possible reason. We are six days into a string of sixteen consecutive games without a day off. That may play into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 The fact that it's a non-move makes me even more upset. Knowing Baj, he'll act like it's no big deal, but the fact that he's kicking serious ass for a horrible Charlotte team and getting passed over for a guy who can't get AAA hitters out stings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDsDirtySox Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 You guys aren't seeing the whole field here. At this point... Walker is really the only move that makes sense. This doesn't mean he is better than Baj, this is just a move to fill a hole. Baj will get more use out of pitching every couple of days in AAA, rather than being the 5th righty out of the pen for the Sox. Walker will only pitch to one or two batters per game when he does pitch. Jaimie Burke is rotting away on the bench and will be better served back in AAA. Plus: With Walker coming up for a brief stint... It could put pressure on Neal Cotts to step it up. Lets hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 (edited) I can usually sit back and figure out why the team makes certain moves, but calling up Walker has me stumped. Is it because Tampa Bay and Baltimore are loaded with lefties? That's the only thing I can come up with as a possible reason. We are six days into a string of sixteen consecutive games without a day off. That may play into it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's exactly what I think... By the way, take a look at the Devil Rays' lineup. Their whole outfield is composed of lefty bats -- Aubrey Huff, Carl Crawford, and Alex Sanchez. Maybe that has something to do with this move. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And I just looked at the Orioles' lineup. Rafael Palmeiro, Brian Roberts, Larry Bigbie, Jay Gibbons, and B.J. Surhoff all bat lefty. Edited May 8, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 this is just bizarre... i'd rather keep pedro up here... have an extra util dude around... i was starting to really like the kid and i really hate having walker up here - we DONT need a mediocre pitcher throwing for us simply because we paid for him... we're winning already, dont f*** with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 QUOTE(Heads22 @ May 8, 2005 -> 05:19 PM) The fact that it's a non-move makes me even more upset. Knowing Baj, he'll act like it's no big deal, but the fact that he's kicking serious ass for a horrible Charlotte team and getting passed over for a guy who can't get AAA hitters out stings. Baj's time will come. Right now, he's better served down in AAA. Bringing him up to rarely pitch does nothing for him. Let him continue to throw consistently and then when we need someone to step in, he'll be up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 this is just bizarre... i'd rather keep pedro up here... have an extra util dude around... i was starting to really like the kid and i really hate having walker up here - we DONT need a mediocre pitcher throwing for us simply because we paid for him... we're winning already, dont f*** with it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Walker is probably going to face one lefty batter a game at the most. Why is everyone freaking out about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 A specialist shouldn't be considered a specialist unless he holds a particular batter (LH/RH) under .200. Walker doesn't fit this bill. A specialists role is primarily for the 6th/7th inning. Beyond this inning, a manager will PH for a player. But again, Walker's hardly pitching well against LHH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 You're right, I probably wouldn't care as much if I didn't know Jeff. He deserved this more than Walker, however. And if it doesn't matter about the spot then it shouldn't matter who it goes to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 (edited) You're right, I probably wouldn't care as much if I didn't know Jeff. He deserved this more than Walker, however. And if it doesn't matter about the spot then it shouldn't matter who it goes to. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But the spot DID matter. Apparently, they wanted another lefty in the bullpen. Considering the next two teams that the Sox are facing have a lot of lefty hitters it, makes some sense. Edited May 8, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ May 8, 2005 -> 05:23 PM) A specialist shouldn't be considered a specialist unless he holds a particular batter (LH/RH) under .200. Walker doesn't fit this bill. A specialists role is primarily for the 6th/7th inning. Beyond this inning, a manager will PH for a player. But again, Walker's hardly pitching well against LHH. Maybe that is Walker's role...Come in for one lefty, make the opposing manager pinch hit w/ a RH, and then Ozzie goes to Luis...See, Walker will serve some purpose! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 Maybe that is Walker's role...Come in for one lefty, make the opposing manager pinch hit w/ a RH, and then Ozzie goes to Luis...See, Walker will serve some purpose! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> EXACTLY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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