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QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 9, 2005 -> 01:32 AM)
Getting strikeouts and not walking guys would be a good way to avoid those things.

 

189 IP -- 3.61 BB/9, 10.96 K/9.

 

8 IP -- 6 BB/8.1, 8.64 K/9.

 

Which line am I going to look at? Easy.

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QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 8, 2005 -> 08:27 PM)
6 walks, 15 hits, and 10 earned runs in 8.1 innings pitched must just be bad luck, right? :headshake

2 walks, 3 hits, and 3 earned runs in 1.2 innings pithced must just be bad luck, right?

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QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 8, 2005 -> 07:34 PM)
189 IP -- 3.61 BB/9, 10.96 K/9.

 

8 IP -- 6 BB/8.1, 8.64 K/9.

 

Which line am I going to look at?  Easy.

 

 

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ May 8, 2005 -> 07:34 PM)
2 walks, 3 hits, and 3 earned runs in 1.2 innings pithced must just be bad luck, right?

Guys, am I missing something what's the point of bringing up another reliever anyways??

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QUOTE(WHarris1 @ May 9, 2005 -> 01:34 AM)
Which pitcher has been better against lefties this year?

 

It's funny, WH1.

 

I love how this double-edged sword is working.

 

Walker has a 5.50+ ERA at Charlotte? Well, it's only 11 IP.

 

Baj put up a huge ERA in 8 IP with the Sox last year? Oh, he sucks.

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QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 8, 2005 -> 08:35 PM)
It's funny, WH1. 

 

I love how this double-edged sword is working.

 

Walker has a 5.50+ ERA at Charlotte?  Well, it's only 11 IP.

 

Baj put up a huge ERA in 8 IP with the Sox last year?  Oh, he sucks.

:lolhitting

Whatever stat fits the argument.

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Why bother complaining about this anyways? We don't have a voice in the matter so why whine about it? They obviously want another lefty in the bullpen. But I guess if the Sox were being run by you guys, they would obviously have a better record than 24-7.

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QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 9, 2005 -> 01:38 AM)
Why bother complaining about this anyways?  We don't have a voice in the matter so why whine about it?  They obviously want another lefty in the bullpen.  But I guess if the Sox were being run by you guys, they would obviously have a better record than 24-7.

 

'Cause it's a message board. That's what it's here for, talk about the team and their moves... Sheesh, it's what it's here for. :rolly

 

No, but it'd be nice if we were a little more efficient (with the bling-bling, of course :) ). It's a stupid move, and nothing you've said has changed my mind, and by your post, it seems like you're not gonna argue it anymore either.

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I can't believe a 117 post thread came out of this. I was thinking about it, and adding Walker might not be so horrible. Like some have said, he won't face more than one batter the few times he does go out there. I realize that what the Sox have going right now is special, and nobody wants to see it get messed up, but i'll choose to trust Ozzie and his staff on this one.

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I don't see why this is a stupid move.

 

1. They have 20 games in a row coming up.

 

2. The primary LH reliever is being used in selected closing situations. The 2nd

lefty reliever appears to be the designated long man.

 

3. Given #1 and #2, they don't have a situational lefty. Walker fits the role.

 

4. Both Tampa and Baltimore have some very good lefthanded hitters.

 

5. Harris is back and Ozuna is presumably healthy, so there's no need for Lopez,

who needs more experience anyway, and no pressing need for Burke.

 

6. As for the added cost of $400K, that's a drop in the bucket.

 

7. 3 lefties in the pen gives Guillen more flexibility. Based on how he's handled

the bullpen thus far, he wants and needs that flexibility.

 

8. If Walker is brutal, they launch him and either trade for a guy or bring up

another situational lefty on the 40 man ... Munoz or Reynoso. Walker has

more experience than both of those two, so it makes sense he gets the call.

 

9. Ozzie got a good look at Walker in Tucson and he also knows what Baj or Josh

Fields or Munoz can do, he saw something in Walker he likes.

 

10. The last few spots on the 25 man roster will change again, giving the board

another chance to, IMO, overreact to a minor depth move to strengthen the

bullpen.

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QUOTE(JimH @ May 8, 2005 -> 08:14 PM)
I don't see why this is a stupid move.

 

1.  They have 20 games in a row coming up.

 

2.  The primary LH reliever is being used in selected closing situations.  The 2nd

  lefty reliever appears to be the designated long man.

 

3.  Given #1 and #2, they don't have a situational lefty.  Walker fits the role.

 

4.  Both Tampa and Baltimore have some very good lefthanded hitters.

 

5.  Harris is back and Ozuna is presumably healthy, so there's no need for Lopez,

  who needs more experience anyway, and no pressing need for Burke.

 

6.  As for the added cost of $400K, that's a drop in the bucket.

 

7.  3 lefties in the pen gives Guillen more flexibility.  Based on how he's handled

  the bullpen thus far, he wants and needs that flexibility.

 

8.  If Walker is brutal, they launch him and either trade for a guy or bring up

  another situational lefty on the 40 man ... Munoz or Reynoso.  Walker has

  more experience than both of those two, so it makes sense he gets the call.

 

9.  Ozzie got a good look at Walker in Tucson and he also knows what Baj or Josh

  Fields or Munoz can do, he saw something in Walker he likes.

 

10.  The last few spots on the 25 man roster will change again, giving the board

    another chance to, IMO, overreact to a minor depth move to strengthen the

    bullpen.

 

Jim, you raise some very good points. My point is that I just don't think Walker is going to get any use. Neal, Cliff, Viz, Shingo are all low on innings it seems and I don't think Walker is going to get a lot if any use up here. I know I liked what I saw of Walker in Spring Training and I've said that before to me the move just doesn't make any sense because there are enough guys in the pen already pressing for innings, jmo.

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Jim, you raise some very good points.  My point is that I just don't think Walker is going to get any use.  Neal, Cliff, Viz, Shingo are all low on innings it seems and I don't think Walker is going to get a lot if any use up here.  I know I liked what I saw of Walker in Spring Training and I've said that before to me the move just doesn't make any sense because there are enough guys in the pen already pressing for innings, jmo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-handed_specialist

 

He's basically another Kelly Wunsch for us. Hopefully, he shows half the talent. Speaking of Wunsch, he's doing a great job for the Dodgers. :crying

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QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 8, 2005 -> 08:37 PM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-handed_specialist

 

He's basically another Kelly Wunsch for us.  Hopefully, he shows half the talent.

I know what he's supposed to be and why he's up here but it still makes no sense to me. I highly doubt walker gets into any games unless the sox are up a ton and that's Neal's job. I just don't see ozzie throwing him into a game with the sox up by a run in the 8th inning, lefty or not at the plate.

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I know what he's supposed to be and why he's up here but it still makes no sense to me.  I highly doubt walker gets into any games unless the sox are up a ton and that's Neal's job.  I just don't see ozzie throwing him into a game with the sox up by a run in the 8th inning, lefty or not at the plate.

After 31 games into the season, it's quite obvious that Ozzie likes to play the matchups and doesn't mind throwing in a reliever to face just one batter. I think Walker will see some action for us. This will save Marte from having to pitch to only one or two lefties, if Walker is any good that is.

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QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ May 8, 2005 -> 08:44 PM)
Don't you love when our biggest concern in Kevin Walker and carrying 7 Relief pitchers?

Ha good point. Just something to talk about when there is really nothing else to argue about. :)

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