Olivo benched

[qwerty]

Wow, I want some of what you've been smoking...

 

You have not seen enough of widger apparently. :headshake

[Rowand44]

You have not seen enough of widger apparently. :headshake

Answer my question, damnit

[qwerty]

Answer my question, damnit

 

I thought the answer was obvious enough.

 

Widger.

 

 

 

 

Pujols.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pierz.

 

Is pierz too high?

[Rowand44]

I thought the answer was obvious enough.

 

Widger.

Pujols.

Pierz.

 

Is pierz too high?

I think Widger might be to low, or Pujols to high, one or the other for sure, maybe both.

[3E8]

I remember last year how many members we had to pull back from the ledge when we traded Olivo. Saying he'd be an All-Star this year and such.

[Jabroni]

I remember last year how many members we had to pull back from the ledge when we traded Olivo.  Saying he'd be an All-Star this year and such.

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Olivo is getting benched in favor of Wiki Gonzalez. I don't miss him. On the other hand, it did suck to lose Reed but that's the price you have to pay for a good starting pitcher.

[Gene Honda Civic]

The most upsetting thing about this trade is the loss of Miguel Olivo. Mo was just starting to come into his own as a major league hitter. I guess there was some problems with the way he called games, though he did have the 3rd best Catchers ERA in the AL last season, much of that may have been attributed to catching Esteban Loaiza. Miguel caught all 28 of Loaiza's victories in a White Sox uniform. The writing was on the wall, I guess most of us just missed it. The Sox had called up Jamie Burke, a third string catcher, when Maggs went on the DL, and when Alomar couldn't go one day when Buehrle was on the hill, MB said he'd prefer to throw to Burke. We should have seen it coming, but we were all blind-sided by losing Miggy. I can still here that commercial with Ozzie, "Miguel Olivo, He's a crazy man."

 

Miguel was a pleasure to watch. He made his mistakes, but you could almost see him learning the game daily. I'll remember the one AB he took about a month ago where he got down 0-2, fought back to a full count, then fought off 3 or 4 pitches, before depositing the ball over the outfield wall. I knew Mo was growing up as a hitter, but that showed me he was actually ready to be a major league hitter. Miguel will become a fan favorite in Seattle with his big smile and all out effort. He had a good teacher in Sandy Alomar with the Sox, and he'll have another one in, Barrington High School product, Dan Wilson in Seattle. Good Luck Mo. I'm sure you'll receive quite an ovation when you return as a M in a couple weeks.

[witesoxfan]

It is hard for me to even remember how devastated I was to lose Mo...but I remember the feelings of that day. It was excitement initially, considering the Sox had just beaten the Cubs IIRC, and then seeing how the Sox traded for FG, the excitement grew for 1 second, and then a sadness set in. Losing Mo hurt like a son of a b****. One of my favorite players on the Sox, just because he gave 100% and he felt like one of the kids, a home grown product turning into a solid MLB player before our eyes, traded and gone just like that. It makes you realize that MLB is a business, and the growing attached to players is a hard thing to do, because in the blink of an eye, they can be gone.

 

Olivo hit a homer the day he was traded too. And him being taken out in the 7th inning for Burke didn't seem like much at the time, but it made a ton of sense in hindsight.

 

That being said, if we still had Mo, we would be looking a hell of a lot worse right now. So ya, it was a good trade.

[Jordan4life_2007]

I'm more than satisfied with getting a bonafide #2 starter in Garcia. Losing Olivo hurt at first, but now we've got an all-star at catcher.

[Jabroni]

I'm more than satisfied with getting a bonafide #2 starter in Garcia.  Losing Olivo hurt at first,  but now we've got an all-star at catcher.

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Agreed...

 

Getting Freddy and signing AJ >>>>> Losing Olivo, Reed, and Morse.

[RockRaines]

Thats the ral question then, would you rather have Garcia or Reed and Morse.

[Heads22]

Garcia, no question.

[santo=dorf]

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ May 9, 2005 -> 05:38 PM)

It was going to be Reed all along supposedly. The big question was whether it would be Crede or Olivo.

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I remember reading from a Seattle paper that it was between Crede and Reed.

[Jabroni]

Thats the ral question then, would you rather have Garcia or Reed and Morse.

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Considering we have two good OF prospects in Anderson and Sweeney... Garcia, no question.

[witesoxfan]

Considering we have two good OF prospects in Anderson and Sweeney...  Garcia, no question.

 

I'd say more than just 2 good OF prospects. We have two top 10 OF prospects at this point, plus you have guys like Chris Young, who could very well be a solid MLBer at some point, along with Jerry Owens who is a project at this point, among others.

 

I'm not going to sit here and pretend like I know the minor leagues like the back of my hand, but I do know that we are deepest in the OF.

 

Making the loss of Anthony Webster 2 years ago, who was at one time looked at as a real solid project prospect, seem like nothing, considering Carl nearly helped take the Sox to a division win

[Gene Honda Civic]

I think young's got a shot to be the best of them all. He's Corey Patterson with plate discipline.

 

Edit: Referring to young. I was supposed to quote Wite.

Edited May 11, 2005 by Gene Honda Civic

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

Olivo is getting benched in favor of Wiki Gonzalez.  I don't miss him.  On the other hand, it did suck to lose Reed but that's the price you have to pay for a good starting pitcher.

 

 

With that being the case I think its safe to say we raped them on that deal.

[Punch and Judy Garland]

Don't follow that logic Nuke. They rented out a pitcher they weren't going to resign for their CF of the future and still possibly their catcher of the future.