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[DBAHO]

Jim bowden should win gm of the year... vinny castilla and all.

I'm sure Brian Sabean wouldn't want to be left out either.

[Spiff]

This is the most true thing ever said in the history of Soxtalk, and internet message boards in general.

 

haha, I have no misgivings about why we're all here.

[southsider17]

I'm sure Brian Sabean wouldn't want to be left out either. 

 

John Schuerholz should retire the award of "best GM". Beane a close second.

 

DePodesta is off to a good start but still needs a few more years of a track record.

Edited May 10, 2005 by southsider17

[JUGGERNAUT]

How quickly we forget that most of the A's teams these past 4 yrs have struggled early. If you look at their winning % April, & May have always been their dog months.

 

But when they get on a roll in June they stay on it & ride it into Oct.

I think we should wait until the 1/2 is over before we proclaim Beane's latest team a success or failure.

[AnthraxFan93]

John Schuerholz should retire the award of "best GM".  Beane a close second.

 

DePodesta is off to a good start but still needs a few more years of a track record.

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DING DING DING.. we Have a winner.. John S is the best GM in baseball, you don't win your Division year in and year out as much as the braves have without a great GM.

 

Beane is a close 2nd, He made a great deal getting rid of Hudson and Mulder, he knew that they would not be able to resign them, so he retooled the SP..Yeah it might suck now, but give it till next year at the break.. then talk to me about how overrated he is.

 

Now to the man we all know and should hate..KW.. One decent offseason does not make him a great GM, lets not forget this is a man who falled for 4 years before this year. Hell all you have to do is go back to the 2004 opening day rotation to further prove this man was in way over his head.

 

1. MarkY B

2. Loiaza

3. Garland

4. Schoenweiss

5. A PLayer to be named later.

 

Any person with half a baseball brain, well know that you will never win anything with that Rotoation, but this was KW grand plan.. and of course.. Failed.

 

I give credit to this years team to Ozzie, for him standing up and saying.. HEY DIPs***.. this team of lets outslug everyone is not the forumla for sucess( though the Red SOx might have something to say about that) SO KW was force to change the make-up of the team.. and wow it is winning.. Something that I have only been calling for since the 2002 season.

[Rowand44]

DING DING DING.. we Have a winner.. John S is the best GM in baseball, you don't win your Division year in and year out as much as the braves have without a great GM.

 

Beane is a close 2nd, He made a great deal getting rid of Hudson and Mulder, he knew that they would not be able to resign them, so he retooled the SP..Yeah it might suck now, but give it till next year at the break.. then talk to me about how overrated he is.

 

Now to the man we all know and should hate..KW.. One decent offseason does not make him a great GM, lets not forget this is a man who falled for 4 years before this year. Hell all you have to do is go back to the 2004 opening day rotation to further prove this man was in way over his head.

 

1. MarkY B

2. Loiaza

3. Garland

4. Schoenweiss

5. A PLayer to be named later.

 

Any person with half a baseball brain, well know that you will never win anything with that Rotoation, but this was KW grand plan.. and of course.. Failed.

 

I give credit to this years team to Ozzie, for him standing up and saying.. HEY DIPs***.. this team of lets outslug everyone is not the forumla for sucess( though the Red SOx might have something to say about that) SO KW was force to change the make-up of the team.. and wow it is winning.. Something that I have only been calling for since the 2002 season.

 

One decent offseason?? The sox are the best team in baseball right now. Sure he didn't make the playoffs in his first 4 years but the teams were there, 2 of those years injuries just derailed our chances and in 03, that was the best team in the al they just choked. Forget all that for a second and realize that it took beane 3 years to make the playoffs with oakland and I believe it took Terry Ryan something like 5 or 6 years to get there were Minny(Not sure on that one). You need to give a gm some time to get his team on the field.

[southsider17]

One decent offseason??  The sox are the best team in baseball right now.  Sure he didn't make the playoffs in his first 4 years but the teams were there, 2 of those years injuries just derailed our chances and in 03, that was the best team in the al they just choked.  Forget all that for a second and realize that it took beane 3 years to make the playoffs with oakland and I believe it took Terry Ryan something like 5 or 6 years to get there were Minny(Not sure on that one).  You need to give a gm some time to get his team on the field.

 

Best team in baseball for a month-and-a-half. So far so good for Kenny .... this year.

 

Also, were Beane and Ryan handed young division winners in there first year?

 

I'm still hopeful for Kenny but he has made a few mistakes. This team will likely need something on offense eventually. How he addresses that will go further in showing how good a GM he can be.

Edited May 10, 2005 by southsider17

[CWSGuy406]

Best team in baseball for a month-and-a-half.  So far so good for Kenny .... this year.

 

Also, were Beane and Ryan handed young division winners in there first year?

 

I'm still hopeful for Kenny but he has made a few mistakes.  This team will likely need something on offense eventually.  How he addresses that will go further in showing how good a GM he can be.

 

I agree, other than the part about Kenny being handed a division winner. 2000 was such a fluke; pitching-wise, at least. Where are those guys now? Sirotka? JB (starting against B-Mac tonight )? Eldred?

 

But Oakland has also had less to work with, in a tougher division. There's no reason we shouldn't have won the division the past few years, IMO.

[AnthraxFan93]

One decent offseason??  The sox are the best team in baseball right now.  Sure he didn't make the playoffs in his first 4 years but the teams were there, 2 of those years injuries just derailed our chances and in 03, that was the best team in the al they just choked.  Forget all that for a second and realize that it took beane 3 years to make the playoffs with oakland and I believe it took Terry Ryan something like 5 or 6 years to get there were Minny(Not sure on that one).  You need to give a gm some time to get his team on the field.

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Read the whole post before responding.. THis is Ozzies team NOT KW.. If it wasn't for Ozzie we still would have LEE, Maggs.. and a crappy pitching staff. KW would have problally resign Schoenweiss, and, lead the peons belive that yet again he is/was worth a spot in the rotation. Look since he took over the GM spot, we ahve had 1-2 decent starters and then some patch work starters in there. You are never going to win with a staff like that. But, according to KW mind set you can..

 

I so sick of blaiming injuries as an excuse, good teams overcome injuries with a good farm system something that we had before KW, and now finally getting back to where it was. BUt, I am sure he trade away more of it so we can finish 2nd place again..

 

And as far as the other GM are conserned.. How many of those GM's where handed and DIvision title winner and one of the best farm systems in baseball only to not make the playoffs in the first 4 years?

[qwerty]

Read the whole post before responding.. THis is Ozzies team NOT KW.. If it wasn't for Ozzie we still would have LEE, Maggs.. and a crappy pitching staff.  KW would have problally resign Schoenweiss, and, lead the peons belive that yet again he is/was worth a spot in the rotation. Look since he took over the GM spot, we ahve had 1-2 decent starters and then some patch work starters in there. You are never going to win with a staff like that. But, according to KW mind set you can..

 

I so sick of blaiming injuries as an excuse, good teams overcome injuries with a good farm system something that we had before KW, and now finally getting back to where it was. BUt, I am sure he trade away more of it so we can finish 2nd place again..

 

And as far as the other GM are conserned.. How many of those GM's where handed and DIvision title winner and one of the best farm systems in baseball only to not make the playoffs in the first 4 years?

 

One of the best farm systems in baseball? Haha, they were all either busts or extremely over rated. Not much he can do with that. As has been said before that 2000 division title was flukey as all hell. How many teams can get by for half a season while losing three three and four hole hitters? It can be done but it is a very limited amount of teams that can do so.

[AnthraxFan93]

One of the best farm systems in baseball? Haha, they were all either busts or extremely over rated. Not much he can do with that. As has been said before that 2000 division title was flukey as all hell. How many teams can get by for half a season while losing three three and four hole hitters? It can be done but it is a very limited amount of teams that can do so.

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Well if 2000 was a fluke like you say it was.. Why did it take KW 4 years to realize this and break up the "core" of players? OR was it he thought that it wasn't a fluke.. or the better option.. THe man was in way over his head.

[qwerty]

Well if 2000 was a fluke like you say it was.. Why did it take KW 4 years to realize this and break up the "core" of players? OR was it he thought that it wasn't a fluke.. or the better option.. THe man was in way over his head.

 

Our ''core'' was the offense and not the pitching. Our ''core'' was just fine but what he needed to improve on then was the pitching.

[AnthraxFan93]

Our ''core'' was the offense and not the pitching. Our ''core'' was just fine but what he needed to improve on then was the pitching.

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But, Todd Ritchie was the answer right? What about David Wells?

[qwerty]

But, Todd Ritchie  was the answer right? What about David Wells?

 

Ron schueler takes credit for the richie trade... as has been said a million times. David wells was not a bad trade considering the guy we traded is no longer playing baseball. Most likely playing softball at this point. Kw could not see into the future and see that wells was gonna get hurt and call out frank.

[False Alarm]

I give credit to this years team to Ozzie, for him standing up and saying.. HEY DIPs***...

 

THis is Ozzies team NOT KW.

i agree. kenny deserves no credit for this team y'alls it was all ozzie. thank god ozzie took charge around here and put this team together otherwise we'd be f***ed. ozzie's been a savior. hey, who hired ozzie anyway? whoever he was, i'd like to shake his hand.

[AnthraxFan93]

Ron schueler takes credit for the richie trade... as has been said a million times. David wells was not a bad trade considering the guy we traded is no longer playing baseball. Most likely playing softball at this point. Kw could not see into the future and see that wells was gonna get hurt and call out frank.

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Who was the GM at the time of that Trade? That who is responable for it..Otherwise you basiclly telling me that KW was unable to handle the GM duties.

 

Lets end this we will never agree that you are wrong to think that KW is a great GM, and You will never admit that I am right and saying that KW is one of the worst GM in the game today.

 

Lets just enjoy the last run for KW, cause in my mind if we don't win crap this year.. in the words of Hawk

 

HE GONE!

 

and maybe we can get a GM in here who doesn't need to be babysat.

[AnthraxFan93]

i agree. kenny deserves no credit for this team y'alls it was all ozzie. thank god ozzie took charge around here and put this team together otherwise we'd be f***ed. ozzie's been a savior. hey, who hired ozzie anyway? whoever he was, i'd like to shake his hand.

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Thank the owner for taking a page out of The Tigers Market Dept to get the fans back.

[qwerty]

Who was the GM at the time of that Trade? That who is responable for it..Otherwise you basiclly telling me that KW was unable to handle the GM duties.

 

Lets end this we will never agree that you are wrong to think that KW is a great GM, and You will never admit that I am right and saying that KW is one of the worst GM in the game today.

 

Lets just enjoy the last run for KW, cause in my mind if we don't win crap this year.. in the words of Hawk

 

HE GONE!

 

and maybe we can get a GM in here who doesn't need to be babysat.

 

Schueler f***ing takes credit for it what do you not understand? Have i ever once said kw is a great gm? Far from it. He has had his fair share of f*** ups but he has also done some good things with the white sox. But everything good he has done you choose to look the other way.

 

By one of the worst that means he is one of the five worst in the mlb correct? Don't think so.

 

If we make the playoffs i can assure you kw will be back whether you like it or not.

[Gene Honda Civic]

[False Alarm]

Thank the owner for taking a page out of The Tigers Market Dept to get the fans back.

dude, you seriously think if kenny'd gone to JR and said, "we gotta hire cito gaston," gaston wouldn't be our manager right now? if you think KW's that much of a lame-duck GM then you can't very well get pissed at him for how he's done over the years cuz he clearly has no say over anything important. toss the voodoo doll and give credit where it's due.

[santo=dorf]

Anthrax, get a f***ing life.

 

I bet you wouldn't be spouting off this "This isn't KW's team" nonsense if they were .500 or worse. :headshake

Edited May 10, 2005 by santo=dorf

[santo=dorf]

QUOTE(southsider17 @ May 10, 2005 -> 03:41 PM)

Best team in baseball for a month-and-a-half.  So far so good for Kenny .... this year.

 

Also, were Beane and Ryan handed young division winners in there first year?

 

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This "handed a division winner" s*** needs to be put to rest for good.

 

That pitching staff fell apart near the end of 2000, and what great things have Baldwin, Parque, Sirotka, Ken Hill, and Cal Eldred accomplished since 2000?

 

Terry Ryan was a GM of a 4th to last place team for 9 f***ing years before the Twins won the division. I can only imagine how some of you would be reacting if KW was here for 9 years without being able to put a team on the field that could finish in at least THIRD place.

[Rowand44]

Terry Ryan was a GM of a 4th to last place team for 9 f***ing years before the Twins won the division.  I can only imagine how some of you would be reacting if KW was here for 9 years without being able to put a team on the field that could finish in at least THIRD place.

Thank you, I knew it was a long time but I couldn't remember how long.

[AnthraxFan93]

dude, you seriously think if kenny'd gone to JR and said, "we gotta hire cito gaston," gaston wouldn't be our manager right now? if you think KW's that much of a lame-duck GM then you can't very well get pissed at him for how he's done over the years cuz he clearly has no say over anything important. toss the voodoo doll and give credit where it's due.

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KW did a great Job at making us be a 2nd place team for 4 staright years..

 

And I have said that so far the moves that Ozzie told KW to make are paying off...Well the past 2 games they haven't.

[DBAHO]

KW did a great Job at making us be a 2nd place team for 4 staright years..

 

And I have said that so far the moves that Ozzie told KW to make are paying off...Well the past 2 games they haven't.

And it's 2 games. Oh no, the sky is falling.