Everett's Sore Leg.....

[beck72]

Anderson is 100 times the player that Joe is, he would be a hell of an upgrade over him.  I think he needs a shot sometime this year to see if he can produce.

 

Which is why I said Anderson should be considered if Carl goes down. Having Timo and Pablo play more than their UTL roles is a Dusty Baker move that would turn out bad.

[RockRaines]

Which is why I said Anderson should be considered if Carl goes down. Having Timo and Pablo play more than their UTL roles is a Dusty Baker move that would turn out bad.

Completely agree, just check out my sig, I think Anderson is one of the bright spots of our system.

[beck72]

Completely agree, just check out my sig, I think Anderson is one of the bright spots of our system.

 

Only should an injury occur. I'm not for promoting him because a vet is going through a slump. And Anderson won't come up for that purpose

[Gene Honda Civic]

Then you'll see Reynoso Honel replaced with B-Mac.

 

That looks better.

[Heads22]

I have a hard time seeing Anderson up anytime soon unless Ev's leg is about to fall off and Pods gets sicker.

[Buehrle>Wood]

I think we will be seeing more of Joey B soon,

[ISF]

There seems to be a rash of judging minor leaguers based on one outing going around. First McCarthy isn't ready because he had a bad outing last time, now Anderson isn't ready because he went 0-4 last night.

 

Hey, Jon Garland just got ripped for 6 runs in his last outing, I guess we need ship his ass to AAA.

 

Anderson has been ripping AAA up, he's batting around .330. McCarthy just got IL Pitcher of the month. Those guys have been consistently good at every level, they could contribute now if called upon.

 

I don't think we need Anderson right now, I think Ozuna and Timo will be fine for the week Everett may need to rest. But this baloney of labeling guys not ready because they had a bad game has to stop. EVERYONE has bad games. Mark Prior got crushed in his rehab outing at Class A. Should he still be in the minors? No.

[Heads22]

I think more of what was being said is that Anderson is not God. Sure, he may be the best option but he has his faults. Plus, if we don't have to have that service time clock ticking just yet, I could see us sticking with a lot more Timo.

[Guest JimH]

There seems to be a rash of judging minor leaguers based on one outing going around. First McCarthy isn't ready because he had a bad outing last time, now Anderson isn't ready because he went 0-4 last night.

 

Hey, Jon Garland just got ripped for 6 runs in his last outing, I guess we need ship his ass to AAA.

 

Anderson has been ripping AAA up, he's batting around .330. McCarthy just got IL Pitcher of the month. Those guys have been consistently good at every level, they could contribute now if called upon.

 

I don't think we need Anderson right now, I think Ozuna and Timo will be fine for the week Everett may need to rest. But this baloney of labeling guys not ready because they had a bad game has to stop. EVERYONE has bad games. Mark Prior got crushed in his rehab outing at Class A. Should he still be in the minors? No.

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Yeah, and there's a rash of judging players and minor leaguers on one good outing too. Happens all the time on this website.

 

Anderson isn't hitting .330 either, so before you call baloney, check the stats and check what's going on with the player. I have commented several times that he's been striking out a lot, isn't that a factor in determining readiness, especially for a player not noted for striking out a lot?

 

Another thing, Anderson faded last year due to various nagging injuries. I think they want to see him contribute and stay healthy for a full year before he's called up. In addition, he's not on the 40 man roster which tells me they're not anxious to start his service time just yet ... whether we like it or not.

 

In addition to rushing to judgement, there is a lot of knee jerk reacting here lately.

 

I am all for calling up Brian Anderson if a major injury necessitates it. On a 25-9 team ... when he's experiencing some success at AAA but still has things to work on ... and hasn't proved himself for a full season in pro ball? Not yet.

 

Lastly, if they thought Brian Anderson was ready, they wouldn't have told him in Tucson he'd be spending 2005 in AAA.

 

I don't mean to sound testy here but some of this clamoring to make changes every other day is not only going overboard, it's just not based on common sense.

[ISF]

Anderson isn't hitting .330 either, so before you call baloney, check the stats and check what's going on with the player.  I have commented several times that he's been striking out a lot, isn't that a factor in determining readiness, especially for a player not noted for striking out a lot?

 

 

My bad, he's currently at .311 with a .914 OPS. :rolly

 

12 BBs and 34 Ks in 119 ABs.

 

K/AB ratio needs work, but he's taking walks, so its not like he doesn't have strike zone judgement.

 

There's nothing there to indicate he couldn't contribute now, which is the whole point of my post. That he went 0-4 last night is entirely irrelevant to his readiness.

Same with McCarthy's last outing. You have to consider performance over a period of time.

[Guest JimH]

My bad, he's currently at .311 with a .914 OPS.  :rolly

 

12 BBs and 34 Ks in 119 ABs.

 

K/AB ratio needs work, but he's taking walks, so its not like he doesn't have strike zone judgement.

 

There's nothing there to indicate he couldn't contribute now, which is the whole point of my post. That he went 0-4 last night is entirely irrelevant to his readiness.

Same with McCarthy's last outing. You have to consider performance over a period of time.

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That's my point too. :rolly

 

Consider their performance over a period of time. Both those guys were in A ball last year, they have barely got their feet wet in AAA.

 

Hey ... everybody who's doing something decent at Charlotte for the first 5 weeks of their season ... let's call 'em up!! Yeah, great idea.

 

Especially when the parent team is 25-9 or whatever the Sox are.

 

Consider, those two guys are not on the 40 man roster at this moment for a reason - they both need more experience.

[ChiSox_Sonix]

If Carl goes to the DL retroactive to a couple days ago we'd need someone for roughly 10-12 games. I'd be fine with just calling up Borchard and playing Timo/Ozuna in Carl's spot with Dye DH'ing and JoBo getting the occasional start. Borchard is not the long term answer at all, but if its for a week I'd rather have him here than start the arbitration clock on Anderson just because we wanted him to play here for a week. Just my two cents

 

Which is why I said Anderson should be considered if Carl goes down. Having Timo and Pablo play more than their UTL roles is a Dusty Baker move that would turn out bad.

[RockRaines]

That's my point too. :rolly

 

Consider their performance over a period of time.  Both those guys were in A ball last year, they have barely got their feet wet in AAA.

 

Hey ... everybody who's doing something decent at Charlotte for the first 5 weeks of their season ... let's call 'em up!!  Yeah, great idea.

 

Especially when the parent team is 25-9 or whatever the Sox are.

 

Consider, those two guys are not on the 40 man roster at this moment for a reason - they both need more experience.

Anderson is one injury away from being called up. And experience is overrated in my eyes, the longer you stay in the minors, the more likely you will stay there. There is a reason he is raking this year, he is finally healthy. And nothing would cure nagging injuries like someone else carrying your luggage, and long sits in the hot tub in the clubhouse. I cant wait for some of these talented young players to get called up some day. I think some of you are getting a little crabby on the topic. This is a GREAT problem to have, options.

[RockRaines]

BUT, to hijack for a second, I would glady trade Anderson etc for Todd Helton.......

[JUGGERNAUT]

I'm not sure what you mean by being added to the 40 before being called up in Sept. That's simply not true. Sept is a free-pass month. The significance of the 40 man roster ends when the 25 man roster becomes the 40 man roster.

 

What I'm not sure about is whether it counts towards ML service time if it's more than 20 days. If it does then that would be a reason not to bring him up in Sept.

 

But based on what the WSox have in the past I think it's a given Anderson will be with them in Sept.

[Guest JimH]

I'm not sure what you mean by being added to the 40 before being called up in Sept.  That's simply not true.  Sept is a free-pass month.  The significance of the 40 man roster ends when the 25 man roster becomes the 40 man roster.  

 

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Huh?

 

It's the other way around. The significance of the 25 man roster ends on Sept. 1 when major league teams can carry 40 players on their roster. The key word there is "roster". That means you have to be one of the 40 guys on the roster, i.e. the White Sox have 39 guys on that roster at the moment.

 

Neither Brian Anderson or Brandon McCarthy are one of those 40. If the White Sox intend for either of the two to spend time in the major leagues (in Sept. or before) they have to purchase their contract and add them to the major league roster.

 

The same would apply to some A ball guy who, for some reason, they might decide to give a look see in September.

 

If you are playing in the big leagues, you are on a teams 40 man roster. No team can have more than 40. That's why you see Jamie Burke getting outrighted every other week.

 

Edit to add: the 40 man roster has significance year round. The 25 man roster has significance from the start of the major league season until 9/1.

Edited May 12, 2005 by JimH

[nitetrain8601]

I also see Borchard being called up for the 25 man before I see Anderson. As stated before, he's not even batting .330, he's K'ing alot as well. He has lots of things to work on still. No need to kneejerk react him into playing with the White Sox this year. His time will come. Same with B-Mac. It wasn't just his last start. Yes, he's leading the league in K's, but he's also walking guys and he's giving up HR's. That means you aren't ready yet. He may be at the end of the year, but he hasn't figured out AAA yet. I say let him do that first.

[hi8is]

lets call up........

 

the great POO!