Winnin Ugly Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 They have 3 Sox players making the all star squad Jon Garland Orlando Hernandez Paul Konerko I think Iguchi, MB and Dustin should be on the squad as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 Konerko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 Paul Konerko?! That is some kind of extra strength crack they have there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 If they are going to have Paul and his Mendoza line batting average, then they should have Pods and his 17 steals. That is the most ridiculous projection I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 QUOTE(TheDybber @ May 13, 2005 -> 11:00 AM) If they are going to have Paul and his Mendoza line batting average, then they should have Pods and his 17 steals. That is the most ridiculous projection I've ever seen. Paul Konerko is getting props because he's tied for the team lead in RBI's, has 9 home runs, and was BADLY screwed out of an all-star spot last year in favor of Giambi. Harold Reynolds was doing the same thing on BBTN the other night. I'd say that Francona probably won't pick him if he doesn't get his average up, but at least people are noticing how badly they screwed him last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 I say Garland, Hernandez and Iguchi(though I could see why he isn't picked) so replace him with Everett if he gets his average a little more up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirotka33 Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 The international vote will give Iguchi a big push... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 QUOTE(Sirotka33 @ May 13, 2005 -> 12:30 PM) The international vote will give Iguchi a big push... Yea, but Soriano has the American and Latin vote. Just the way it is. Soriano will get voted in and Francona will oversee Iguchi unless Roberts slows down drastically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ May 13, 2005 -> 02:33 PM) Yea, but Soriano has the American and Latin vote. Just the way it is. Soriano will get voted in and Francona will oversee Iguchi unless Roberts slows down drastically. Oversee? You mean overlook, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 Does anyone else think Roberts and Soriano should be the second-baseman respresentatives before Iguchi anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ May 13, 2005 -> 01:53 PM) Does anyone else think Roberts and Soriano should be the second-baseman respresentatives before Iguchi anyway? As of today? No doubt about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ May 13, 2005 -> 11:53 AM) Does anyone else think Roberts and Soriano should be the second-baseman respresentatives before Iguchi anyway? If Roberts keeps this up, he should be an all-star no question. He's putting up numbers like Uribe put up the first 2 months last year. I don't know about Soriano. I've never really liked him as a player, and a lot of other people don't either. He hits a lot of home runs, but has never been great on defense. Iguchi is hitting like 40 points better than him right now and plays much better defense - Soriano already has 6 errors. Iguchi has 1. Their OPS is almost the same, which means Iguchi's OBP is also much higher. I'd call it a toss-up between the two, barring a power surge by Iguchi, which could still happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 (edited) Top American League 2nd Basemen Name Avg HR RBI Runs SB Brian Roberts .381 10 30 30 12 Alfonso Soriano .285 10 24 27 5 Tadahito Iguchi .328 2 15 16 7 Chone Figgins .268 2 15 19 12 I'm pretty sure Roberts and Soriano have second base covered. Soriano has 8 more HRs, 9 more RBIs and 11 more runs than Iguchi. Iguchi has 40 points higher on his Avg and 2 more stolen bases + better defense. Edited May 13, 2005 by Kalapse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 13, 2005 -> 01:03 PM) Top American League 2nd Basemen Name Avg HR RBI Runs SB Brian Roberts .381 10 30 30 12 Alfonso Soriano .285 10 24 27 5 Tadahito Iguchi .328 2 15 16 7 Chone Figgins .268 2 15 19 12 I'm pretty sure Roberts and Soriano have second base covered. Soriano has 8 more HRs, 9 more RBIs and 11 more runs than Iguchi. Iguchi has 40 points higher on his Avg and 2 more stolen bases + better defense. OMFG, how does Roberts have 10 homers?! I'd realized he had eclipsed his career mark in April, but jeebus, I figured he would not have 10 by now. That guy is just f***in smokin hot. Anyways, if we want all-stars from the Sox...how about the entire rotation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ May 13, 2005 -> 03:02 PM) OMFG, how does Roberts have 10 homers?! I'd realized he had eclipsed his career mark in April, but jeebus, I figured he would not have 10 by now. That guy is just f***in smokin hot. Anyways, if we want all-stars from the Sox...how about the entire rotation? - Contreras + Hermanson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UofIChiSox Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 They have Neifi Perez as an NL All-Star Shortstop. I find that hard to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 13, 2005 -> 02:11 PM) - Contreras + Hermanson Hermanson too of course. And while Contreras has virtually no shot of becoming an All-Star(the 5th best starting pitcher on a team usually won't be an All-Star), he does have the numbers, right now, of an all-star, minus his win total. 1-0 with a 3.18 ERA and a 1.24 WHIP along with a BAA of under .200 is pretty sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 Sox All-Stars: Garland Hernandez Iguchi Hermanson MAYBE Podsednik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ May 13, 2005 -> 05:00 PM) Sox All-Stars: Garland Hernandez Iguchi Hermanson MAYBE Podsednik Iguchi is not an All Star over Soriano or Roberts. The stats don't lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 Garland, El Duque, and Hermanson (assuming he continues to close our games). ESPN and alot of others have started to fall in love with MB, so he could be a "sexy" pick. If we still have such a dominating record, we will have to have more than one or two players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 QUOTE(SuperSteve @ May 13, 2005 -> 06:41 PM) If we still have such a dominating record, we will have to have more than one or two players. Not true.....See "2004 Cleveland Indians" but then again, that was a bad team with a bunch of All-Stars. But ur probably right, 2001 Mariners had like 3543 all-stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirScott Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ May 13, 2005 -> 01:33 PM) Yea, but Soriano has the American and Latin vote. Just the way it is. Soriano will get voted in and Francona will oversee Iguchi unless Roberts slows down drastically. I don't know, anybody on the eastern hemisphere with internet access will be voting for Iguchi the max amount of times. same with Ichiro. Edited May 14, 2005 by AirScott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ May 13, 2005 -> 08:15 PM) Not true.....See "2004 Cleveland Indians" but then again, that was a bad team with a bunch of All-Stars. But ur probably right, 2001 Mariners had like 3543 all-stars. Victor Martinez Ronnie Belliard Jake Westbrook There is really no argument against any of those players being all-stars last year And, in 2000, the Sox had the most wins at the break. They had 3 All-Stars, one of whom was not Frank Thomas, due to it being in an NL park...so in reality, they had 4, because Thomas was an All-Star, he was just not on the All-Star team. 4 All-Stars for the best team in baseball = not a lot There is no guarantee that we will have a lot. Hell, we were leading the AL Central last year, and we had 1 All-Star, if memory serves correct - that being Esteban Loaiza, and why he was an All-Star still leaves me clueless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 (edited) Garland and El Duque and even Buehrle if he gets his ERA down to around 3.00 in his next few starts. Also, Hermanson if he keeps being lights out. I don't think Iguchi will make it with Roberts and Soriano tearing it up. He should definately be the third option though. And we can't forget about Dead... Edited May 14, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 13, 2005 -> 05:34 PM) Iguchi is not an All Star over Soriano or Roberts. The stats don't lie. Actually, in this case, the stats do lie. How nmany times has Iguchi given himself up to move a runner over, or taken a hittable pitch or two to let Scotty get a read on the pitcher or steal? How many DP's has he turned because he's super quick with that glove to throwingt hand exchange? There is a lot more to playing good baseball than HR, RBI and Slugging pct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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