GARCIA HAS NO BALLS!!!!!

[WHarris1]

No you're not alone, that ball was fieldable. Why wasn't he guarding the line-I have no idea.

[GoodAsGould]

I just dont understand why Konerko gets cheered so much when he has sucked this year. Im not saying boo him but save the cheering for another player that deserves it more like Podsenick, Iguchi, Uribe, Everett, recently Rowand... all of our pitchers.

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

I just dont understand why Konerko gets cheered so much when he has sucked this year.  Im not saying boo him but save the cheering for another player that deserves it more like Podsenick, Iguchi, Uribe, Everett, recently Rowand... all of our pitchers.

 

 

I dont post about Kong here a whole lot, although I do remember posting a few times that he needed to get his act together, but anyone who's in chat regularly during the games knows that I rip on Kong regularly for not hitting.

[Gene Honda Civic]

No you're not alone, that ball was fieldable.  Why wasn't he guarding the line-I have no idea.

I agree with you Willie.

 

Derek Lee makes that play while drunk off his ass, and one hand tied behind his back.

[Flash Tizzle]

What's the excuse today, gentleman?

 

Did Ozzie not properly define his role this evening?

Was the lapse in defense responsible?

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

What's the excuse today, gentleman?

 

Did Ozzie not properly define his role this evening?

Was the lapse in defense responsible?

 

The lapse in COCKS bladder control is to blame.

[nitetrain8601]

I just dont understand why Konerko gets cheered so much when he has sucked this year.  Im not saying boo him but save the cheering for another player that deserves it more like Podsenick, Iguchi, Uribe, Everett, recently Rowand... all of our pitchers.

 

I say this all the time. They should hold on cheering Pauly because he just doesn't do it.

[TheBigHurt]

I just dont understand why Konerko gets cheered so much when he has sucked this year. Im not saying boo him but save the cheering for another player that deserves it more like Podsenick, Iguchi, Uribe, Everett, recently Rowand... all of our pitchers.

 

Well, booing him won't help his self-esteem any

 

I think of cheering someone as support, too. Not just as some reward for playing well.

 

I can understand the frustration, but IMO making insults towards these players when they aren't their best isn't really right. Personally I despise the "If you're doing good we love you, if ur not doing good we hate you" attitude that it seems is quite common, especially in Chicago(Sox anyway). Everyone goes through slumps. Ease off a bit on the "eat s***" and "Cocks" and all that other crap, jeez. I realize it's frustrating if not everything is perfect, but that's how it is.

Edited May 15, 2005 by TheBigHurt

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

Well, booing him won't help his self-esteem any

 

I think of cheering someone as support, too. Not just as some reward for playing well.

 

I can understand the frustration, but IMO making insults towards these players when they aren't their best isn't really right. Personally I despise the "If you're doing good we love you, if ur not doing good we hate you" attitude that it seems is quite common, especially in Chicago(Sox anyway). Everyone goes through slumps. Ease off a bit on the "eat s***" and "Cocks" and all that other crap, jeez. I realize it's frustrating if not everything is perfect, but that's how it is.

 

I'm sick of hearing about players self esteem. This guy is making 8 million dollars a year. If he cant produce then he deserves to get booed.

[TheBigHurt]

Well that's your opinion, and it makes sense to me ina way, but is that really a reason to hate the person(s)? Are they not human? Even if I was a pro baseball player, I'm sure hearing fans cheering me on would help me play a bit better, moreso than hearing my own fans boo me. make of it what you will. Everyone deserves to be supported, that's all I'm saying. If the guy made 50 dollars a game, the same thing would probably happen.

Edited May 15, 2005 by TheBigHurt

[CWSGuy406]

What's the excuse today, gentleman?

 

Did Ozzie not properly define his role this evening?

Was the lapse in defense responsible?

 

There are no excuses. Cotts hasn't been great the past two days, period.

 

But, who's better than him? It ain't Kevin Walker, I don't care if he's pitched two shutout innings. I think it's time to give Baj a prolonged chance, regardless of him being a lefty or not.

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

There are no excuses.  Cotts hasn't been great the past two days, period.

 

But, who's better than him?  It ain't Kevin Walker, I don't care if he's pitched two shutout innings.  I think it's time to give Baj a prolonged chance, regardless of him being a lefty or not.

 

 

I'm wondering why Politte is not getting used. If he's hurt and I missed it then I can see but if he's healthy then there's no reason to keep throwing Cocks out there when he clearly isin't getting it done.

[AirScott]

Garcia is starting to piss me the f*** off these days.  He was out there acting like a junkballer all night and he had more hangers than a f***ing closet.  He better get his s*** wired together and do it fast.

Ozzie  I know Garcia is f***ing one of your relatives but GETTING A WIN FOR THE TEAM IS MORE f***ING IMPORTANT THAN GETTING A WIN FOR YOUR BUDDY.  YOU DUMB TRUCK!!!!  What the f*** were you f***ing doing bringing him out there in the 7th?!?!?!? Where the f*** was Politte who hasn't pitched in days??!?!  Why was Cocks left in there to get shelled all that time.  GOD GROW A BRAIN AND GET A CLUE!!!!!!!

 

wow. I'm a day late here, but you have a point about Ozzie. he constantly seems to leave his starters in just 1 inning too long, he did the same exact thing with Buehrle vs. Oakland. I missed the game, I was at work, but from what I've heard/seen, he should stop doing that.

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

wow.  I'm a day late here, but you have a point about Ozzie.  he constantly seems to leave his starters in just 1 inning too long, he did the same exact thing with Buehrle vs. Oakland.  I missed the game, I was at work, but from what I've heard/seen, he should stop doing that.

 

 

 

 

Its nice to try to get a starter a win but throwing him back out there when he's tired and has a high pitch count isin't gonna get that done.

[ChWRoCk2]

I'm wondering why Politte is not getting used.  If he's hurt and I missed it then I can see but if he's healthy then there's no reason to keep throwing Cocks out there when he clearly isin't getting it done.

yeah cotts sucks, dont see why we dont bring up bmac for long relieve or adkins

[qwerty]

yeah cotts sucks, dont see why we dont bring up bmac for long relieve or adkins

 

No. Just no.

Edited May 15, 2005 by qwerty

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

No. Just no.

 

 

Yeah, BMac is our next starter and he needs his seasoning in the minors. No reason to bring him up early and ruin his confidence by throwing him in bad relief situations.

[ISF]

Need 3 lefties in the pen. If you send down Cotts or Walker, Munoz should get the call. Not concerned about his ERA, he's got a 3:1 K/BB ratio, seems to have the best control of the AAA group.

 

Send Vizcaino down and bring up Bajenaru. Vizcaino is useless.

[DBAHO]

yeah cotts sucks, dont see why we dont bring up bmac for long relieve or adkins

Statements like calling up B-Mac for long relief when he has struggled in his last 2 starts make me laugh.

[Jabroni]

Statements like calling up B-Mac for long relief when he has struggled in his last 2 starts make me laugh. 

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

True, it's a stupid idea but it doesn't mean Cotts sucks any less.

[Queen Prawn]

While at the game yesterday, I was less than happy when I saw Cotts was the one brought in...not that it matter much considering the trouble the Sox had stringing two hits together yesterday.

[Jabroni]

While at the game yesterday, I was less than happy when I saw Cotts was the one brought in...not that it matter much considering the trouble the Sox had stringing two hits together yesterday.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Someone needs to tell Cotts that he isn't supposed to put the first batter he faces on base be it from a walk, hit, or HBP.

[DBAHO]

Someone needs to tell Cotts that he isn't supposed to put the first batter he faces on base be it from a walk, hit, or HBP.

I don't know if we'd able to see these stats, but I'd like to see Cotts' ERA and splits when he pitches at the start of an inning, instead of replacing someone with runners already on. I think he's probably come in more replacing a starter at home than away, but I can't say for sure.

[jackie hayes]

The question is always, how much do you need to see before deciding the guy can't pitch?

 

The knock on Cotts is that he's walking people and not stranding runners. He hasn't been good on either count, but Damaso's been worse on both, and Shingo's been just as bad w/ inherited runners. So at least Damaso should be jettisoned too, I guess? Who the hell is going to be left by the end of this purge?

 

The question is not whether Cotts has pitched well lately, obviously he hasn't. But imho, it is way too early still to give up on a player, after 12 innings, when his overall performance is at worst mixed, not disastrous. So I'm not going to defend his performance, or find excuses. But you're not going to convince me that he's been unmasked by a couple games.

[DBAHO]

I think another thing to look is our bullpen compared to other teams in the league. Only Minny in our division would probably be better than our pen. In the AL East, I don't know if there's a better bullpen except for perhaps Boston. In the AL West, only Anaheim and maybe Oakland would probably have better pens. I know everyone is desperate to send Cotts down, but we should at least be thankful that our pen isn't as bad as some other teams in the league, like the Cubs and Rockies.