sox-r-us Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Even when Frank Thomas makes it back from his minor-league rehab stint, Guillen says nothing will change for Konerko. "When Frank comes, I hope to give him some DH [at-bats]. Carl [Everett] is there, and he'll play some outfield, and I'm going to mix my lineup more often. But Paulie's going to be my first baseman.'' ======================== http://www.suntimes.com/output/telander/cst-spt-rick16.html ========================= Personally I will be happy with Carl in the OF and Frank and Paulie in the line up. That makes our middle of the line up so much more formidable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Looking at what Carl has hit, and what Dye has hit, you almost have to give it a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 That is very scary thinking of Carl in the OF again...people will be shooting shots towards him all game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 QUOTE(sox-r-us @ May 16, 2005 -> 10:54 AM) Even when Frank Thomas makes it back from his minor-league rehab stint, Guillen says nothing will change for Konerko. "When Frank comes, I hope to give him some DH [at-bats]. Carl [Everett] is there, and he'll play some outfield, and I'm going to mix my lineup more often. But Paulie's going to be my first baseman.'' ======================== http://www.suntimes.com/output/telander/cst-spt-rick16.html ========================= Personally I will be happy with Carl in the OF and Frank and Paulie in the line up. That makes our middle of the line up so much more formidable. Its not like Dye has been a shadow of his old self in the field. I think Everett can do better than dropping fly balls, missing cutoffs and not reaching ground balls and then letting them run by you. At least Everett can make contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 16, 2005 -> 11:55 AM) Looking at what Carl has hit, and what Dye has hit, you almost have to give it a chance. After talking to him at SF I have to admit I am much more comfortable with him out there than I was thinking about him out there over the winter. Mike.. you have any thoughts on him pre/post fest..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ May 16, 2005 -> 12:01 PM) After talking to him at SF I have to admit I am much more comfortable with him out there than I was thinking about him out there over the winter. Mike.. you have any thoughts on him pre/post fest..? After seeing him at the fest I felt 100% better about him being on this team. And so far his numbers have borne that out. He was embarassed after last year, and rightfully so. His game looks better all around when compared to 2004. As of right now, I am ready to try him out there. Besides it isn't like Dye has been doing something awesome out in the field either to say that he needs to stay out in RF everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I hope Carl is successful out in the field. However, other than a few misplays by Dye, which we are all aware of, he has added something to overall defense of this the team. At least, Aaron Rowand thinks so. He has commented on Dye and Posednik were very good at cutting of balls in the alleys and therefore turning doubles into singles and prevent other baserunners from advancing an extra base. There are defensive plays that don't show up in the box score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ May 16, 2005 -> 01:01 PM) I hope Carl is successful out in the field. However, other than a few misplays by Dye, which we are all aware of, he has added something to overall defense of this the team. At least, Aaron Rowand thinks so. He has commented on Dye and Posednik were very good at cutting of balls in the alleys and therefore turning doubles into singles and prevent other baserunners from advancing an extra base. There are defensive plays that don't show up in the box score. Not one. Not a couple. It's been a few, and that's unacceptable for the less-difficult position on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 If Everett starts playing the field, what's the over/under on how many days until he is on the DL? It has to be under 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finkelstein Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I guess the question we have to ask ourselves is, whether or not Carl's offense is more important than Dye's defense? Right now I would say yes. Carl has been better than expected, and Dye has been worse than expected. I say roll the dice and give CRAZY a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ May 16, 2005 -> 12:14 PM) Not one. Not a couple. It's been a few, and that's unacceptable for the less-difficult position on the field. Half of Dye's errors were due to his own laziness. Failing to drop your mit far enough down to catch a groundball in the outfield is unacceptable. I'm willing to accept Everett in the outfield as long as he's producing offensively. If his horrid defense is costing runs, Ozzie may want to consider platooning Dye/Everett against LH/RH pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ May 16, 2005 -> 10:56 AM) That is very scary thinking of Carl in the OF again...people will be shooting shots towards him all game... Yeah. His one outing in the outfield was downright scary and he nearly put himself on the DL to boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ May 16, 2005 -> 01:16 PM) If Everett starts playing the field, what's the over/under on how many days until he is on the DL? It has to be under 5. then I guess we won't have a problem then. If someone gets Dl'd then thomas plays everyday. here is my viewpoint, one of these guys, dye, everett and or thomas will get hurt again. If thats the case all will be ok. If they don't get hurt for any reason then I think everett will play instead of dye one day, pods the next day, and they will give rowand a rest once a week, then move pods over to CF and everett and dye will both play. If thomas foot does get better than he may even get a shot at first once a week. In this scenerio thomas can play four or five days a week and everett the same. Its anice problem to have and good power off the bench. Its not like DYE is tearing up the league. thomas if healed is a presence in the lineup and he gets on base. It will be great to get him back. Even if he plays every other day its a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UofIChiSox Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Everett >>>> Dye offensively, Dye slightly > than Everett defensively. I'd play Dye against most lefties and Everett against most righties. This has Thomas as the everyday DH. If Everett does get hurt, Dye can step right in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I'll acknowledge Dye's errors, but don't overlook how many runners he's kept from taking the extra base with his arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 QUOTE(Jake @ May 16, 2005 -> 03:48 PM) I'll acknowledge Dye's errors, but don't overlook how many runners he's kept from taking the extra base with his arm. Or how many times the runners advanced because he didn't hit the cut off man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 he has a good arm, but it isnt the same arm he used to have..... I just think Dye is done as being a productive player.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Dick Allen @ May 16, 2005 -> 12:16 PM) If Everett starts playing the field, what's the over/under on how many days until he is on the DL? It has to be under 5. Dye is far more injury-prone than Everett. I'll take Carl's bat over Jermaine's any day of the week. If Dye's the odd man odd sometimes, oh well. BTW, I'd rather see Everett starting in RF this weekend at Wrigley 1 or 2 games, than Dye, too. Edited May 16, 2005 by robinventura23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 While Carl plays none of them well, he does play all three positions which I guess gives us some options when it comes to days off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 (edited) While Carl plays none of them well, he does play all three positions which I guess gives us some options when it comes to days off <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I hope you are considering DH and not CF as the third position that Everett can play besides LF and RF. Everett's days as a CF'er are over. Anyways, is Ozzie thinking about playing Everett in RF or LF? Edited May 17, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 IF Everett plays the field then it can't be in RF. He just doesn't have the arm for it. I think we would have to rotate the whole OF and put Aaron ROwand in RF, Scooty P. in CF, and Carl Everett in LF. That would keep our OF pretty good defensively while getting a better bat in the lineup. Carl would be too much of a liability in either CF or RF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 (edited) IF Everett plays the field then it can't be in RF. He just doesn't have the arm for it. I think we would have to rotate the whole OF and put Aaron ROwand in RF, Scooty P. in CF, and Carl Everett in LF. That would keep our OF pretty good defensively while getting a better bat in the lineup. Carl would be too much of a liability in either CF or RF. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's exactly what I was thinking... CF Podsednik 2B Iguchi RF Rowand DH Frank LF Everett 1B Konerko C Pierzynski 3B Crede SS Uribe But then the problem is -- is Podsednik a defensive liability in CF? Edited May 17, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ May 16, 2005 -> 01:14 PM) Not one. Not a couple. It's been a few, and that's unacceptable for the less-difficult position on the field. I believe I said "a few". I also didn't indicate that it was acceptable. However, I feel like it's an abboration. He's a better defensive outfielder than he has shown and over the course of the season, I think he'll perform better than he has so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 (edited) I believe I said "a few". I also didn't indicate that it was acceptable. However, I feel like it's an abboration. He's a better defensive outfielder than he has shown and over the course of the season, I think he'll perform better than he has so far. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 2 dropped pop-ups and 2 balls rolling under his glove is enough to show me that Dead is dogging it in RF. If Dead keeps dogging it, I'm not so sure Everett would be that much of a downgrade defensively in RF. Edited May 17, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 17, 2005 -> 01:04 AM) 2 dropped pop-ups and 2 balls rolling under his glove is enough to show me that Dead is dogging it in RF. If Dead keeps dogging it, I'm not so sure Everett would be that much of a downgrade defensively in RF. Sorry, but I disagree. Dye's not dogging it. He just screwed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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