RockRaines Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 All day today I have been reading about how much everyone wants to do something on the offensive side of the ball, and many different ideas have been kicked around, mostly floating around the MVP baseball level of reality. As far as teams that are willing to deal their established talent for youth and promise, I could only come across 1 that I knew had expressed that desire for sure. The Royals. The question is, would you trade some of our prosepects, gonne have to be a pitcher for sure, for Mike Sweeney to replace Kong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 YES. and KC would never go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 17, 2005 Author Share Posted May 17, 2005 QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ May 17, 2005 -> 03:08 PM) YES. and KC would never go for it. Im just saying this in reaction to this ESPN quote May. 17 - The next Royals manager will need to share in the organization's youth-movement vision, the Kansas City Star reports. GM Allard Baird also wants someone with previous experience as a tactician at the major-league level – the Royals' last five skippers (John Wathan, Hal McRae, Bob Boone, Tony Muser and Tony Peña) had no big-league experience – but that's not an absolute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 I dream of this.... But it will never, ever, in a zillon, billion, trillion years happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotop Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 The answer is NO. Sweeney is locked up for awhile I believe, and his contract becomes massive if traded ($9million turns into $12million if traded). And I doubt KC would want to take on any of that contract to alleivate the financial burden on Sweeney's new team. Also, I'm assuming KC is looking for at least two top prospects for Sweeney, and for a guy that's pretty injury prone and produces just about the same (if not less than konerko) it doesn't make much sense. Now if we were talking Todd Helton here, well that would be a different story. This is lke my one billionth time dropping his name, but if moving Konerko is a real option, Helton needs to be the guy targeted. I'm sure Colorado would be willing to take about 30-40 million of his contract if the deal is right and Helton is one of the premier left-handed bats in the game. Thomas/Helton 3-4 would be absolutely ridiculous. This is all assuming this is done mid-season which is highly unlikely since the White Sox are playing so well and Konerko is, even though it doesn't look like it, a key part of the offense. The most likely scenario is the Sox moving someone like Contreras in the off-season for a new 1st baseman, offering Konerko arbitration, and then getting two draft picks when someone pays outta their ass for him. But if we're going to talk about replacing Konerko mid-season, Mike Sweeney is defintely not the answer to improve the club in the short and long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 I'd pass on Sweeney because of his back woes. I think it's time to give up on Dye, however. Bring up Anderson and let Dye go. Paulie just needs to suck it up and start hitting. The team is probably just patiently waiting for frank to return to have murderer's row of Everett, Dye, Frank and Pauilie. p.s. Interesting that Jeremy Reed hasn't done much this year. He gets hits and scores runs once in a while but nothing remarkable yet. And Olivo has been horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Isn't going to happen and the only reason you need to know is Sweeney's contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotop Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 QUOTE(greg775 @ May 17, 2005 -> 04:23 PM) I'd pass on Sweeney because of his back woes. I think it's time to give up on Dye, however. Bring up Anderson and let Dye go. Paulie just needs to suck it up and start hitting. The team is probably just patiently waiting for frank to return to have murderer's row of Everett, Dye, Frank and Pauilie. p.s. Interesting that Jeremy Reed hasn't done much this year. He gets hits and scores runs once in a while but nothing remarkable yet. And Olivo has been horrible. Reed and Olivo's performance is making the Garcia trade look better and better each day. I still think Reed is going to be a good player, but when Wiki Gonzalez is starting over Olivo you have to think he may not put it all together. So even if Reed does pan out, it would be Reed/Morse for Garcia. I'd say that's a win for the White Sox. And to think of all the people we had to keep from jumping off a building after that trade. It's just a solid reminder that potential is potential and production is production. Just ask Joe Borchard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Reed and Olivo's performance is making the Garcia trade look better and better each day. I still think Reed is going to be a good player, but when Wiki Gonzalez is starting over Olivo you have to think he may not put it all together. So even if Reed does pan out, it would be Reed/Morse for Garcia. I'd say that's a win for the White Sox. And to think of all the people we had to keep from jumping off a building after that trade. It's just a solid reminder that potential is potential and production is production. Just ask Joe Borchard. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Joe Borchard can talk? "DUUURRR!!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISF Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 KC won't trade him within the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_LEE45 Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 we would rather trade for alomar again than go get a good bat!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Ide give them BMac, Sweeney, and Anderson for Sweeney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 QUOTE(T R U @ May 17, 2005 -> 09:50 PM) Ide give them BMac, Sweeney, and Anderson for Sweeney You're friggin' crazy too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 QUOTE(kapkomet @ May 17, 2005 -> 03:52 PM) You're friggin' crazy too. I thought that was painfully obvious I was joking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 I would trade Crede for Sweeney and move Konerko to 3rd base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 17, 2005 -> 04:54 PM) I would trade Crede for Sweeney and move Konerko to 3rd base. Better yet move Konerko to catcher because he was drafted as a catcher and put AJP out in right, then trade Dye and Borchard to the Phillies for Bobby Abreu and Billy Wagner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Better yet move Konerko to catcher because he was drafted as a catcher and put AJP out in right, then trade Dye and Borchard to the Phillies for Bobby Abreu and Billy Wagner. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Are you nuts?!? Dye is too much too give up for Abreu and Wagner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 17, 2005 -> 03:29 PM) Joe Borchard can talk? "DUUURRR!!!" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Wow, have some class dude. Even if he is underperforming, that does not give you an excuse to make fun of how he looks. Care to post a picture of yourself, so we may all make fun of you? :finger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Wow, have some class dude. Even if he is underperforming, that does not give you an excuse to make fun of how he looks. Care to post a picture of yourself, so we may all make fun of you? :finger <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It has nothing to do with his attractiveness. It's just that Borchard has that "deer caught in the headlights" look all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 QUOTE(ISF @ May 17, 2005 -> 09:32 PM) KC won't trade him within the division. I dont see why they wont, They are far away from being contenders really... by time they might actually have a team to contend with Sweeney's contract might already up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Unless we do a Dye for Sweeney deal, with KC kicking in cash I would never do it. Sweeney is an injury waiting to happen, with an albatross of a contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirScott Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 QUOTE(greg775 @ May 17, 2005 -> 04:23 PM) I'd pass on Sweeney because of his back woes. I think it's time to give up on Dye, however. Bring up Anderson and let Dye go. Paulie just needs to suck it up and start hitting. The team is probably just patiently waiting for frank to return to have murderer's row of Everett, Dye, Frank and Pauilie. p.s. Interesting that Jeremy Reed hasn't done much this year. He gets hits and scores runs once in a while but nothing remarkable yet. And Olivo has been horrible. you're right about Sweeney's back, the risk there is too big for the reward because Konerko can and should put up close to Sweeney's numbers. I wouldn't say let Dye go, but maybe bring up Anderson to give him a little push, if he doesn't turn it around soon (it sounded like he was hitting it well tonight, just right at people, I didn't see it but I heard it on the radio) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 QUOTE(YahtzeeSox @ May 17, 2005 -> 11:07 PM) Wow, have some class dude. Even if he is underperforming, that does not give you an excuse to make fun of how he looks. Care to post a picture of yourself, so we may all make fun of you? :finger I agree. At this point, we all realize he isn't performing too well, you don't have to post it day after day after day after day. And, the whole "DURR" thing, you're just trying to making him look like a dumbass, which is pretty low -- to me, and I guess Yahtzee too. There's no need for it, really, considering he's not a guy who's just taken the signing bonus and gotten fat and ran with it. By all accounts he's a hard worker, one of the hardest on the team, and there's really no need for comments like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 Why would KC not trade Sweeney within the division? He has like 3 years left on his deal, and they won't be anywhere close to competing till maybe 2007 if they are lucky. Note that Pittsburgh did not care that they were trading within the division in 03 when they sent Lofton, Ramirez, and Simon to the Cubs. It is the Sox that should not want to deal for him. To bring up the same Pittsburgh example again, the Cubs gave up relatively nothing. If the Sox could get away with trading an overrated prospect(Hill/Borchard), a bench player who is not on the books for much longer(Hernandez/Dye), and another player who is not coming to my mind(so maybe someone could help me out...LOL), then I'd make the trade. I'd give nothing of real long-term value to them whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 18, 2005 -> 09:08 AM) It has nothing to do with his attractiveness. It's just that Borchard has that "deer caught in the headlights" look all the time. Yes Mr. Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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