LDF Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 do you remember when there was a lot of talk about getting him. well i am still wondering if it was a bad choice not to. NAME G AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS Jose Cruz 18 68 19 20 4 0 5 39 11 16 19 2 1 .294 .424 .574 .997 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 do you remember when there was a lot of talk about getting him. well i am still wondering if it was a bad choice not to. NAME G AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS Jose Cruz 18 68 19 20 4 0 5 39 11 16 19 2 1 .294 .424 .574 .997 Yeah, he's playing well. But, we chose Daubach and Rios for our back-up roles. I think we need to give them a few more AB's before we start second guessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 22, 2003 Author Share Posted April 22, 2003 do you remember when there was a lot of talk about getting him. well i am still wondering if it was a bad choice not to. NAME G AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS Jose Cruz 18 68 19 20 4 0 5 39 11 16 19 2 1 .294 .424 .574 .997 Yeah, he's playing well. But, we chose Daubach and Rios for our back-up roles. I think we need to give them a few more AB's before we start second guessing. it was second guessing per se but a group of us wanted him and wondered at the time if he was worth the money. however we started to hear about his attitude and i am still wondering if that was not the sox doing in justifing that picking him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 do you remember when there was a lot of talk about getting him. well i am still wondering if it was a bad choice not to. NAME G AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS Jose Cruz 18 68 19 20 4 0 5 39 11 16 19 2 1 .294 .424 .574 .997 Yeah, he's playing well. But, we chose Daubach and Rios for our back-up roles. I think we need to give them a few more AB's before we start second guessing. it was second guessing per se but a group of us wanted him and wondered at the time if he was worth the money. however we started to hear about his attitude and i am still wondering if that was not the sox doing in justifing that picking him up. How much did the Giants pay him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 22, 2003 Author Share Posted April 22, 2003 do you remember when there was a lot of talk about getting him. well i am still wondering if it was a bad choice not to. NAME G AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS Jose Cruz 18 68 19 20 4 0 5 39 11 16 19 2 1 .294 .424 .574 .997 Yeah, he's playing well. But, we chose Daubach and Rios for our back-up roles. I think we need to give them a few more AB's before we start second guessing. it was second guessing per se but a group of us wanted him and wondered at the time if he was worth the money. however we started to hear about his attitude and i am still wondering if that was not the sox doing in justifing that picking him up. How much did the Giants pay him? 3.7 mil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 do you remember when there was a lot of talk about getting him. well i am still wondering if it was a bad choice not to. NAME G AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS Jose Cruz 18 68 19 20 4 0 5 39 11 16 19 2 1 .294 .424 .574 .997 Yeah, he's playing well. But, we chose Daubach and Rios for our back-up roles. I think we need to give them a few more AB's before we start second guessing. it was second guessing per se but a group of us wanted him and wondered at the time if he was worth the money. however we started to hear about his attitude and i am still wondering if that was not the sox doing in justifing that picking him up. How much did the Giants pay him? 3.7 mil $3.7M a year? I don't think the Sox would have given him that much. Hell, we got Loaiza, Daubach, Rios, White, and Gordon for that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernuke Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 I don't think he will stay this hot all year but I still think he would have helped this team out a lot. Still wish we would have picked him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 22, 2003 Author Share Posted April 22, 2003 I don't think he will stay this hot all year but I still think he would have helped this team out a lot. Still wish we would have picked him up. i do too, but the 3.7 mil is what i am wondering about. but oh well, i will keep tabs on him this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 I got to thinking about my comment about all the guys we got in the off-season (I mentioned Daubach, Rios, White, Gordon, and Loaiza) costing about as much as we would have had to give Jose Cruz, which was $3.7M. I decided to check the accuracy of that... Daubach -- $450,000 Rios -- $450,000 Loaiza -- $500,000 Gordon -- $1,400,000 White -- $600,000 That's a total of $3.4M (not factoring in the incentives that I know Loaiza has and I think Daubach has). That's money VERY wisely spent IMO. The Sox may be cheap, but this season we definitely are getting the most for our money talent-wise. Hopefully that talent will reach its potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernuke Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 I got to thinking about my comment about all the guys we got in the off-season (I mentioned Daubach, Rios, White, Gordon, and Loaiza) costing about as much as we would have had to give Jose Cruz, which was $3.7M. I decided to check the accuracy of that... Daubach -- $450,000 Rios -- $450,000 Loaiza -- $500,000 Gordon -- $1,400,000 White -- $600,000 That's a total of $3.4M (not factoring in the incentives that I know Loaiza has and I think Daubach has). That's money VERY wisely spent IMO. The Sox may be cheap, but this season we definitely are getting the most for our money talent-wise. Hopefully that talent will reach its potential. Very true, but a hot hitter that can bat lefty and plays a great center field sure would be nice right about now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 22, 2003 Author Share Posted April 22, 2003 I got to thinking about my comment about all the guys we got in the off-season (I mentioned Daubach, Rios, White, Gordon, and Loaiza) costing about as much as we would have had to give Jose Cruz, which was $3.7M. I decided to check the accuracy of that... Daubach -- $450,000 Rios -- $450,000 Loaiza -- $500,000 Gordon -- $1,400,000 White -- $600,000 That's a total of $3.4M (not factoring in the incentives that I know Loaiza has and I think Daubach has). That's money VERY wisely spent IMO. The Sox may be cheap, but this season we definitely are getting the most for our money talent-wise. Hopefully that talent will reach its potential. Very true, but a hot hitter that can bat lefty and plays a great center field sure would be nice right about now. and has 5 hrs so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 do you remember when there was a lot of talk about getting him. well i am still wondering if it was a bad choice not to. NAME G AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS Jose Cruz 18 68 19 20 4 0 5 39 11 16 19 2 1 .294 .424 .574 .997 Yeah, he's playing well. But, we chose Daubach and Rios for our back-up roles. I think we need to give them a few more AB's before we start second guessing. it was second guessing per se but a group of us wanted him and wondered at the time if he was worth the money. however we started to hear about his attitude and i am still wondering if that was not the sox doing in justifing that picking him up. How much did the Giants pay him? 3.7 mil $3.7M a year? I don't think the Sox would have given him that much. Hell, we got Loaiza, Daubach, Rios, White, and Gordon for that much. what needed to happen was we trade carlos lee and his 4.2 million off to whoever..preferable for a starting pitcher better than jon garland...then we sign cruz and we would have that starting pitcher at a net 500k savings off his salary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 Also when looking at Cruz remember he is hitting behind Barry Bonds in SF. With us he would be hitting 7th or 8th most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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