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[DBAHO]

If Konerko wont be back, we need a big LH bat in the middle. If we can trade for Teixeira bcoz they have that Adrian Gonzalez waiting.

Scott Bora$$ client. Trading for Gonzalez is more likely.

[qwerty]

Also anyone know Sean Casey's contract status... because I think he would be the perfect 1B for us.

 

They already picked up his option... and both dye and contreras are not gonna be gone next year.

[Rowand44]

Kevin Millar has hit for pretty much no power this year. He's a great clubhouse guy, but I don't think he'll be our main target.

Erubiel Durazo is one of Beane's love childs. And he pretty much can't field at 1B. He's a DH specialist, so we'll have to see what happens with Thomas and Konerko.

 

My guy I'd go after since we're naming them, J.T Snow. Lefty bat, won't break the bank, hits for a high average and a gold glove first baseman.

I actually think we have J.T. junior on the dl right now. Nothing against snow but I'd rather give ross a shot then signing snow, if we can't find a left handed bat with power I think it might be better to stay in house and use some money on a dominate closer or a dominate setup man(that's the beauty of hermy gives you that versatility). Since we really won't have many holes to fill we'll probably be able to make a big splash somewhere whether it be wagner or Durazo or trading Contreras for a top tier talent. Ahh, always fun to talk about next season when we have the best record in baseball this season.

[redandwhite]

- Podsednik should and will stay in left.

- Durazo cannot play first base nor should he be relied on in the middle of the order considering he can't hit lefties whatsoever.

- Kevin Millar may be a freindly guy in the clubhouse but for his production or lack there of I wouldn't want any part of him, and this is coming from a Red Sox fan. He's a great guy, but hes nearly worse than Curt Schilling in terms of him trying to be some larger than life celebrity.

 

To be honest, I would love to see Lyle Overbay in either a White Sox or Red Sox uniform. His swing in Fenway would be to die for, and the same can be said for US Cellular. With Prince Fielder on the rise, he could very well be expendable. He's a perfect fit.

[Kalapse]

To be honest, I would love to see Lyle Overbay in either a White Sox or Red Sox uniform.  His swing in Fenway would be to die for, and the same can be said for US Cellular.  With Prince Fielder on the rise, he could very well be expendable.  He's a perfect fit.

Lyle Overbay would be awesome at the Cell. He's stellar defensively, has a high OBP and hits a s*** load of doubles which are now starting to turn into HRs, and at the cell his HR numbers would explode. It would take a lot to get him, but there is a chance he could be had.

[DBAHO]

Overbay is certainly an option, although his monster season so this far this year has his value pretty sky - high. The Sox need to decide whether to trade for a guy like Overbay and really give up a lot, sign a guy like Snow or Durazo, or trade a guy like Contreras for someone like Adrian Gonzalez plus other prospects possibly, which is a scenario that has been tossed up here before.

[CWSGuy406]

- Podsednik should and will stay in left.

- Durazo cannot play first base nor should he be relied on in the middle of the order considering he can't hit lefties whatsoever.

- Kevin Millar may be a freindly guy in the clubhouse but for his production or lack there of I wouldn't want any part of him, and this is coming from a Red Sox fan.  He's a great guy, but hes nearly worse than Curt Schilling in terms of him trying to be some larger than life celebrity.

 

To be honest, I would love to see Lyle Overbay in either a White Sox or Red Sox uniform.  His swing in Fenway would be to die for, and the same can be said for US Cellular.  With Prince Fielder on the rise, he could very well be expendable.  He's a perfect fit.

 

He has a career 129 OPS+. He must be doing something right...

[Kalapse]

I just want to put one thing to rest right now before it gets out of control.

 

Erubiel Durazo is not a first baseman.

 

He has played hardly any first base for the A's and for good reason. He's bad, he's really bad. You do not want a guy like Durazo at 1B for you, he's a huge liability.

[qwerty]

May i ask why people are so high on gonzalez? He doesn't have a great eye and less than average power for a first baseman.

 

I don't care if fielder is in the minors or not overbay is gonna cost a s*** load and he is just not worth it. One reason he is gonna cost so much is he isn't a free agent until 2008-2009 and for two he is pretty damn good. Did the brewers rape arizona or what? That is always funny to think about.

[Kalapse]

He has a career 129 OPS+.  He must be doing something right...

He's batting .387 Vs. Lefties this season and only .206 against righties. He's going completely against his career numbers.

[witesoxfan]

Durazo cannot play first base nor should he be relied on in the middle of the order considering he can't hit lefties whatsoever.

 

To be honest, I would love to see Lyle Overbay in either a White Sox or Red Sox uniform.  His swing in Fenway would be to die for, and the same can be said for US Cellular.  With Prince Fielder on the rise, he could very well be expendable.  He's a perfect fit.

 

.378(14 for 37) 2 HR 8 RBI, .410 OBP, 1.059 OPS vs LHP this year disagrees. His .278 5 28 .773 splits from last year, while not spectacular, also disagree with you. The only reason we would should have little interest from him is the reason why the DBacks traded him in the first place - he is too injury prone while playing in the field.

 

Another thing...what would it cost to get Overbay? If the deal was centered around a SP, like say Contreras, then the Sox would have to give some money too. Odds are also very solid that Contreras alone would not get the deal done. It takes a good amount of value to get value.

[3E8]

Take a look at what Konerko is doing versus lefties this year. It's pretty weird.

[qwerty]

.378(14 for 37) 2 HR 8 RBI, .410 OBP, 1.059 OPS vs LHP this year disagrees.  His .278 5 28 .773 splits from last year, while not spectacular, also disagree with you.  The only reason we would should have little interest from him is the reason why the DBacks traded him in the first place - he is too injury prone while playing in the field. 

 

Another thing...what would it cost to get Overbay?  If the deal was centered around a SP, like say Contreras, then the Sox would have to give some money too. Odds are also very solid that Contreras alone would not get the deal done.  It takes a good amount of value to get value.

 

The brewers would laugh at the thought of contreras. Not because he is bad... because he is a free agent after next year and pretty expensive for them. They are all about youth and contreras is not exactly young.

[Kalapse]

Did the brewers rape arizona or what? That is always funny to think about.

Junior Spivey, Craig Counsell, Lyle Overbay, Chad Moeller, Chris Capuano and Jorge De La Rosa.

 

The Brewers got they're current 1Bman, 2Bman, C, SP and RP from the D-Backs in the Richie Sexson trade. One of the best trades ever. And I can honestly say I loved the trade for the Brewers when they made it.

[redandwhite]

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ May 23, 2005 -> 01:45 AM)

.378(14 for 37) 2 HR 8 RBI, .410 OBP, 1.059 OPS vs LHP this year disagrees.  His .278 5 28 .773 splits from last year, while not spectacular, also disagree with you.  The only reason we would should have little interest from him is the reason why the DBacks traded him in the first place - he is too injury prone while playing in the field. 

 

Another thing...what would it cost to get Overbay?  If the deal was centered around a SP, like say Contreras, then the Sox would have to give some money too. Odds are also very solid that Contreras alone would not get the deal done.  It takes a good amount of value to get value.

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He is significantly worse against lefties than he is against righties over his career. 37 at bats this season aren't going to change my mind to the least. Not only is he too injury prone, he is a terrible first baseman. He should not be considered for the starting first base job for a World Series contending team, he just shouldnt.

 

Overbay might cost quite a bit, but I don't really think he would cost an astronomical amount like some of you seem to believe. Anderson for sure would be enough to land him in my opinion.

[redandwhite]

QUOTE(qwerty @ May 23, 2005 -> 01:48 AM)

The brewers would laugh at the thought of contreras. Not because he is bad... because he is a free agent after next year and pretty expensive for them. They are all about youth and contreras is not exactly young.

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Texas is his most likely Contreras' destination. It would be interesting to see what they would give up for him...

[3E8]

Anderson for sure would be enough to land him in my opinion.

I don't agree, but I'd do that in an eye blink.

[Kalapse]

Overbay might cost quite a bit, but I don't really think he would cost an astronomical amount like some of you seem to believe.  Anderson for sure would be enough to land him in my opinion.

The Brewers seem to make the most of their bigtime trades. IE: Sexson, it also looks like the Kolb trade is going to work out in the Brewers favor as well.

 

Overbay would cost a s*** load, never doubt the Brewers when it comes to that.

[WHarris1]

The Brewers seem to make the most of their bigtime trades. IE: Sexson, it also looks like the Kolb trade is going to work out in the Brewers favor as well.

 

Overbay would cost a s*** load, never doubt the Brewers when it comes to that.

Oh man Kolb trade is looking great.

I really really like Capellan, and Kolb is sucking hard for ATL.

[CWSGuy406]

He is significantly worse against lefties than he is against righties over his career.  37 at bats this season aren't going to change my mind to the least.  Not only is he too injury prone, he is a terrible first baseman.  He should not be considered for the starting first base job for a World Series contending team, he just shouldnt.

 

Well, you made it seem like Durazo is bad at the plate. He's not a good fielder, but he's perfectly fine as a middle of the order hitter, whether you choose to recognize it or not.

[Rowand44]

Well, you made it seem like Durazo is bad at the plate.  He's not a good fielder, but he's perfectly fine as a middle of the order hitter, whether you choose to recognize it or not.

I've always been a fan of Durazo. I like his approach at the plate. He doesn't swing for the fences hits a lot of balls hard to left field. I like hitters who will go oppo every now and then instead of trying to drive the ball out of the park and Erubial does that a lot, he's a good hitter.

Edited May 23, 2005 by Rowand44

[witesoxfan]

He is significantly worse against lefties than he is against righties over his career.  37 at bats this season aren't going to change my mind to the least.  Not only is he too injury prone, he is a terrible first baseman.  He should not be considered for the starting first base job for a World Series contending team, he just shouldnt.

 

Overbay might cost quite a bit, but I don't really think he would cost an astronomical amount like some of you seem to believe.  Anderson for sure would be enough to land him in my opinion.

 

Significantly worse, to me, seems to be Jose Valentin when comparing his RHP vs LHP splits.

 

Durazo's career splits...

 

VS RHP - .286 75 251, .391/.507/.898 - 1446 AB

VS LHP - .269 19 79, .355/.437/.792 - 494 ABs

 

It's not like he is useless against LHP.

 

And are you trying to tell me that the likely future CFer and #2 prospect of the White Sox is not very much for Overbay? This is a guy whose career OPS in the 2nd half is .722, and who is hitting .194 with a .626 OPS this year against LHP. It is a very limited amount of at-bats, and overall in his career he has been solid against LHP...but that is an alarming stat.

 

To me, Brian Anderson > Lyle Overbay. I'd rather just keep Gload for $1 mill and keep Anderson.

[redandwhite]

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 23, 2005 -> 01:53 AM)

Well, you made it seem like Durazo is bad at the plate.  He's not a good fielder, but he's perfectly fine as a middle of the order hitter, whether you choose to recognize it or not.

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I didnt make it seem like he was bad at the plate, I only said that he isn't very good against left handed pitching and that for a World Series contending team he should not be the starting first baseman mostly because of how poor he is defensively.

 

[redandwhite]

I am convinced that Sweeney is the better player, so I believe Anderson should be made available. What the White Sox do with him is obviously not my decision but if it involved a stop gap like Overbay I would be satisfied.

[CWSGuy406]

I didnt make it seem like he was bad at the plate, I only said that he isn't very good against left handed pitching and that for a World Series contending team he should not be the starting first baseman mostly because of how poor he is defensively.

 

 

You said:

 

Durazo cannot play first base nor should he be relied on in the middle of the order considering he can't hit lefties whatsoever.

 

I'm just saying, he's a fine middle of the order hitter. No, he might not be a good defensive firstbaseman, but offensively, he is. I'd tend to think that he'd make up for his defensive problems with his bat, but Oakland fans have told me otherwise.